18.07.2013 | 真假難辨

[Volume 8 Issue 7, #1757]
大家有冇試過喺條街度, 有個陌生人突然行埋嚟問你要錢?? 睇落一臉驚慌嘅陌生人, 話俾你知佢啱啱發現唔見咗荷包, 問你可唔可以俾錢佢搭車返屋企?? 而通常個數目係非常之雞碎, 譬如話係RM1.50之類你一個唔覺意跌咗都唔察覺嘅數目.. 我要講嘅係, 當呢種情形發生喺我身上嘅時候, 我都會好覺得好徬徨, 如果我幫佢又可能係騙局一場, 如果我選擇唔幫佢又可能佢真係咁黑仔.. 可是好多時候都真係好難辨別真假, 再加上呢個越來越唔安全嘅社會, 發生咗咁多欺詐案件, 所以可能大家要原諒我, 寧願選擇鐵石心腸唔幫啲陌生人, 都唔想因為同情而俾人呃.. 又或者我應該往好嘅一方面諗, 能力做得到嘅就幫啦, 同自己講係做咗宗善事, 就算真係騙局一宗, 都同自己講佢咁做係有佢嘅原因.. 如果換著你, 你會點做呢?? 做個好人, 定還是個衰人呢?? :)
have you ever been approached by some perfect strangers on the street asking you for money?? they looked anxious, telling you that they lost their wallets and asked if you could spare some money so that they can take transport home?? and most of the time, the amount they asked for will be just minimal like RM1.50 that you may anytime accidentally dropped it without realizing.. i have to say that i am always caught in a dilemma if that happens to me, if i help and that could be a con, if i choose not to help and that person could be real unlucky.. many times it is impossible to differentiate the genuineness, and with the many deceptions that had happened in this society which is getting less safe, please forgive me but i would rather be a bad guy refused to help than to be conned at the cost of my sympathy.. or a second thought, perhaps i should think a little more positive, just help if i can afford to help and make myself believe that i have done a good thing, and even if it was a con, that they actually did that with a reason.. how would you react then?? to be positive or to be negative?? :)
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    1. Tough cookie, this one. I think I have mentioned this. I've given RM10 to the same man in two separate occasions. How could I be fooled twice, right? But I was and didn't realise it until later.

      It was the same man with the same tactic and even at the same place. Sigh! It happened a few years apart. I guess my feeling for his sad story ruled my head and suppressed the memory.

      I can say without a doubt that it was a real case of deja vu.

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    2. I've read that some of these con people earn much more than what we imagine. I'm glad now in KL there are much less foreigners begging esp at eating places.

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    3. Beggars are worst in China too. We were told to ignore them totally.

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    4. I think India and China have the most beggars after hearing from friends' polls. Some are genuine beggars while others should be able to work with healthy limbs.

      I had seen lots of unique beggars in USA. They are different from the Asians. many would write big cards with messages that could make you laugh sometimes.

      The common ones are old men with placards like "I am a Vietnam War Veteran, please help me. I will work for money".... Goodness my friends told me that the US govt would have glorified and gave them pension if the fought in the war. Well, not many people knew their rights and simple donated.

      Some beggars were younger and muscular men with placards like - "I will work for FOOD only. No money please!"

      Others were many hilarious messages like being thrown out of the house by their spouse and kids.

      Many beggars had strong alcohol smell and even smoked. They loved to grab Asian students by their shirts to ask for money. I always ran for my life!

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    5. here they expect you to pay money just like that leh. Really la see them also still strong. Can work but maybe begging is easy money kot. worst still is some woman would carry a baby and ask for donation. The baby dono is it really hers or rented from some irresponsible parents. sees a lot of that hawker center or pasar malam.

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  2. Hard to say...

    If alone, I'm also very much hesitant because the risk of taking out my wallet.

    Sad isn't it?

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    1. It's better to be safe than sorry. Who knows, that person might just snatch your purse.

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    2. Usually i tarak give. Maybe I am a cynic la.

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  3. Nowadays, receiving offers of help and assistance also scared, just in case the good Samaritan is not a good Samaritan after all. :(

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    1. Talking about the word "Samaritans'...I heard many faked ones who stopped by the accident or stalled cars on pretext to tolong the victims! Goodness NO, the victims got victimized again 2nd time after getting robbed. So scary! Better sign up with AAM and hide inside your car.

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    2. ya wor....saw so many such thing in news and various social media

      The other day saw in FB some one reported that one fella car punya tayar suddenly have smoke coming out after he exit the toll. Then one "good samaritan" come help see. The so call good samaritan with a "car brand" shirt say he works with that particular car brand . said he is on the way to wor. He offer to check the car tayar.

      Then the fella said duno what clam or part rosak. Dangerous. Need to change. Said he is not suppose to do car repair outside the workshop but he will help the victim la...he said call colleague come help. wahhh that colleague come so fast leh...took the "spoilt" part to buy new part then qouted the victiem RM1k plus for new part . Licky the victim called his dad and the dad told him not to proceed with it but tow back to the service center.

      The two bogus fella got angry ...

      when the car was towed to the service center , people there told him that that is nothing wrong with that part. That his car tayar have been sprayed with acid hence smoke come out. Really a....these days cannot trust good samaritan also

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  4. Happy Thursday morning SK and everyone.

    Yesterday it was a rather morbid post.

    Today another thought provoking and serious post from SK.

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    1. Kesian Ah boy, this Anay must have haunted his head until he had to write a morbid post.

      It is good that Ah Boy is looking around at the realities of our human being's lives. There is so much to discuss and debate besides learning a thing or two from each other. I am happy that many bloggers shared new ideas with me. BAGUS!

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  5. yeah, meet before, but that time i was in rush say got to go liao~ >.<

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  6. It happened to me many times. If I had the small change, I would give. Otherwise, I just leave them without any. But my boss is very particular. He always doesn't believe in that and he would just ignore them.

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    1. But it's a different case as for school. I would donate to students with their donation cards to be signed.

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    2. I forbid my son from going around with the donation card.

      I know it's for his school but rather than him looking for money, I'd rather donate them mtselves.

      A senior manager in my company asked her assistant to go around collecting funds for her son, asking lesser paid staff to donate. Not right lah...

      Anyway, I prefer fund drive like selling food, car wash, talent times rather than asking kids hustle ppl for donation.

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    3. I remember last time primary school i also kena...teacher give one card as us to go ask for donation....so ask neighbour to donate lo.

      If one kid still okay la can afford to sendiri donate .

      My poor neighr got 5 daughters and 2 sons. Kesian her when their school ask them to ask for donation.

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  7. Truly understand ur situation. I used to always donate and give when these people approached me while im walking on thr street. but once I came to KL, all my friends stopped me from giving and they told me those are all cons. :( I feel bad but again, I guess I just need to be positive about it. :)

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  8. Good morning ah boy SK! And everybody!!

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    1. Oh, reading this post of yours reminds me of a similar topic I blogged some times ago, about an old lady approaching me to give her a lift back home. I feel sorry for her but I rejected her in the end :(

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    2. Like you said, there're too many con cases these days, really hard to differentiate, and it makes me miserable also... If no help, people might think we're so cruel, if help, we might be the victim! Haiz...

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    3. Even small children or elderly would involved in those con cases, thinking we'll surely help them cause they are pitiful. But still, always be cautious, sometimes it's more important to 'help' ourselves rather than to bring troubles to ourselves.

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    4. And to answer your question, if I am in a situation like that, most probably I'll say no and walk away. Well, that's me, can be quite 'heartless' sometimes, hehehe :p
      But if those people are handicapped or really very old already, then I'll help still la!

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    1. There's a time, a guy who is healthy approach me for $5, i didn't give him, then he went to approach an aunty, the aunty loudly tell him don't have...

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    2. Then there's a time, in hawker centre, i saw a guy approached quite a no. of people asking for money to eat, nobody gave him, in the end, saw a guy bring him and ask him what he want to eat...

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  10. In order to protect myself, I always ignored them, especially around Kepong here, when we stopped at the traffic ligt, sometimes there will be a stranger walk towards to every car to ask for money!!!

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  11. Good Morning Bloggers.

    We need to be wiser than the con men to counter them. I have met them several times at shopping centres over 10 years ago. I wasn't so smart then and gave in because the amount requested was so minimal like how SK described.
    If I am not mistaken, one asked me for RM4.50 to make a call and take a public bus back to Seremban. Another asked for RM8.00 to catch a bus to Klang plus a nasi lemak meal. He was shivering that day and I thought he was a drug addict but he told me he was being extorted that morning on his way to college. How pitiful stories! I just closed my eyes and gave in....

    I just remembered this 2 vividly but have forgotten others. Once bitten twice shy.

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    1. adei....ya lor the one say no bus money and all that. Many times already kena .

      But you not that cham la. My colleague lagi cham...a man selling something..it's the kind "donate from the heart" type. Hence any amount can right? He gave rm2 and kena reject. The fella want rm10. This fella dumb dumb and paid rm10...pengsan..maybe kena jampi kor

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  12. Sometimes is not about cruel issue or not, is we have to protect our own safety! Meanwhile, I'll use the proper way to donate to some charity society!!! Because some of these strangers, the more we help, the more they'll get used to it, they won't be intended to work!!! =[

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  13. There is one lady sitting at MV Burger Kind and watch people eat.

    Once you settled down already, she will come and say she doesn't have money and ask you to give her some.

    Can wave her away lah... then she will kacau another diner.

    But the thing is, why resort to doing that?

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    1. All beggars think alike! If I have to become a beggar I would be hanging out at the fast food and eating outlets where there is high traffic of sympathizers! You would feel guilty to chomp your food happily without taking pity of a hungry soul at your table. I think the rate is still bearable in Malaysia compared to our neighbouring countries where their beggars trail you everywhere! Their government didn't do much to curb these problems. You won't see such people begging at fast foods in well developed countries like Japan, Singapore or Hong Kong.

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    2. ask for food is okay la not as bad as asking for money. Some you give them food they dont want. They want money

      There was one lady beggar in Sibu. we were having breakfast she come and ask for donation. We say no. Then she ask for food. Okay la ngum ngum got one better cake gave her one slice lor...She took...ate and walk away. Then wipe her dirty hand on the shop wall!!!

      terkejut we all see that. You can ask STP and Quay Po Cooks. STP said the lady got family punya. dunno rich lady or what .

      Entah why become like that. Maybe too rich too stress kot?

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  14. I saw this a lot in New Zealand. Don't mind if they play music or what to entertain - those street buskers but not the hobos - I would not bother to give. They get welfare...and probably what they get is not enough for them to buy their drinks/beer.

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    1. Best give through the proper channels via those charitable organisations. Some are under some gangster syndicate...or at least, that's what some people say.

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    2. I agree that donations need to be channeled to the right NGO for genuine helps to be distributed. I personally saw syndicates who fetched beggars to the public areas to beg. I heard a friend saying that her blind cousin comes from a well-to-do family but chose to follow a syndicate who would fetch him to beg everyday. He shared with the syndicate his earning but that blind man could easily take home over RM6,000 each month!!! That is a lot man!

      The blind man's parents objected to his beggings but gave up as he was persistent that he was earning an honest living by begging independently without parent's support. Sigh!

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    3. wah rm6k a month...so much ahhh....

      I also saw before the van dropping beggars at pasar malam. Last time i give la but now i dont give anymore

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  15. Madhiya vanakkam SK & all bloggers

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  16. One true and sad case was from my hair dresser who said there is this beggar at a LRT station nearby who would on and off pop-in for a hair wash in her saloon. Oh my goodness like that also can??? Washing away people's hard earned money or rather his easy earned money just like that?

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    1. Adoi this beggar is so canggih and goes to hair salons for free wash! Someday he might ask for free perm, highlights and bonding!!! Muahahahaha
      This is really a joke to hear! Bananaz is damn siao when high on banana toxins!

      The most silly things I heard was beggars going to restaurants to get free meals or cigarettes only.

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  17. This type of case didn't happen to me, not even once, but it happened to my husband before.
    My story is as below,
    That time, I worked Singapore, my then boy friend went to visit me, he waited to catch a flight at the airport. One family, a couple (husband and wife) with 2 kids (one boy and one girl). The father brought along his wife and kids and came talking to my husband. He said he lost his wallet at Genting Highland, he wanted to go back to Singapore. He showed their Singapore passports to my husband.
    He asked my husband to loan him RM300. He said he would return the money when he went back to Singapore, he gave my husband a contact number.
    When he took the money, he and his family left airport with a taxi. My husband thought that they might be going to bus station and take bus to go back to Singapore. When my husband reached Singapore, he tried to contact the man. Then only we realized that the man gave us a call center number. How sad, right?
    Anyway, my then boy friend had done a good thing by lending them RM300. When my husband returned to Malaysia, he won a lottery of RM30K. His car plate number came out as the first prize in Toto.
    He lost RM300 but won RM 30K. I do not know how to explain this Karma thing until today. I think Anay can explain this well.

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    1. What a big surprise!!! I knew this Jin Jin has a good heart even by looking at his photos. Honestly I will never fork out RM300 to lend a stranger like how Jin Jin trusted him. That was more than 10 years ago and the value could be over RM500 today!!!

      No wonder Jin Jin's kindness even moved the heavens!! He was being rewarded in return by many leaps and bounds!! Good for Yannie, married the right Prince on the White Horse!

      How come Yannie could think that Anay can explain this karma thing? Anay's heart may be kind but not as big & kind like Jin Jin's heart. I must meet this man and shake his hands someday.

      Hey he won RM30,000 and that was so long ago! I think it could be over RM50,000 value today. I would have gone crazy and couldn't sleep for a week.

      Today I learn this story and will remember to share with everyone. I am sure Yannie has more hidden and shocking stories in her sleeves!!!

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    2. good things comes to good people. Maybe the conman will have bad luck all his life for dragging "wife" and "children: to beg with him

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  18. Under the Theravadin Vinaya 227 rules for monks and 311 for nuns, one of the rule is ~ money should not be accepted by a Buddhist monk or nun in lieu of or in addition to food. NEVER to offer any money to any monks when they come around during lunch hour in kopitiams carrying their almsbowl. Monks go on a daily almsround (pindacara) to collect food only and it must be in the morning as the 227 rules prohibit eating of solid food after 12 noon.

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    1. You are right and so well informed about these rules, Bananaz! Were you a novice monk before?

      Each time when I took my mum out for meals at coffee shops, these bogus monks would show up with the bowl filled with amulets, bracelets or cash notes inside. My mum would get very horrified and angry before taking the monks to task. She would ask them if they were Thais? If they replied YES, she would give them hell and told them off for their wrongdoings and warned them to go back to their country. The bogus monks would shiver and vanished into thin air! Muahahahaha

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    2. hahaha.....padan muka those monks . Yeah it was one of those bogus thai monk that cheated my colleague la give rm2 tak maubut want rm10. I dont know why he just give like that. We asked him later why he give. He also bodoh bodoh...maybe he kena jampi or what

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  19. Why Rm1.50 only? I got "conned" 40rm. The lady outside a clinic pleaded with me to pay her that amount when i went to see doc..... I pitied her and i paid.. Then she got her medicine n went off... After that the clinic nurses told me that she tipu one..always asked for money to pay for her medicine.. And feeling too sick, i dint ask what type of medicine she took...

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    1. then the nurses should have alerted the patients. Why they kept silent? The doctor and nurses suppose to protect people also mah.

      But then you kind hearted. Good karma la. Will be blessed a thousand folds

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  20. well i experienced such thing everyday
    most especially at church just like what happened a while ago
    a lady was asking money for her kid's medicine i just can't help
    but to help

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  21. We have had the same pakcik ask us twice within the same week at 2 different locations asking for money to return to Kajang on the excuse he was pickpocket!

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  22. Oh dont get me started on this else i will start nenek kebayan story. Just the other day was approach by such person. This lady damn(sorry for the foul word but and damn piss off by it la) persistant. Say no already still like "yuin gwai" chasing after me

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  23. if it's a old woman, a mother, a kid or a disabled person
    i would surely help them but if otherthan that
    i would not

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  24. as for kids, i think we should not give them money
    because some kids use it for buying cigarette

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    1. we rather treat them for food than give them money
      which you cannot be sure where are they gonna be using it

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  25. but nowadays we can't really tell who deserves sympathy
    because the world we live in was full of lies
    we can never tell who's true or not, and for that i was reminded of
    this video i saw online on which a guy was pretending to be disabled
    just to spare some bucks from people

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  26. have a great day and happy blogging sk
    take the best of care and god bless you

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  27. it's depends on situation at that point in time actually. Really need to be cautious when approached by this kind of people.

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  28. Hmm.. late again. Yup stay alert and be cautious every time. Ignored them totally. Many stories to tell... but I guess tomorrow. Zzz....

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  29. Good afternoon SK.

    It's Friday today.

    I'll drop by to wish you good night later.

    Have a great weekend.

    Semoga terus berbahagia dan semoga hidup anda sentiasa dirahmati.

    God bless.

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  30. I'd encounter this case a few years back. After office hour, i was on my way back and dropped by the bank to bank in some cheques. This aunty (about 50 y.o) came over to ask for some money saying her bag was being snatch and she needs money to go back to Klang by KTM. So kesian, so we gave her RM10

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    1. A few days later, we saw her again in the same spot. She forgotten about us, but we remember her ! She told us the same story again and we shot her back. She quickly ran away.

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    2. Her story was being published in the Chinese news paper after that. I think many got conned by her and some publics made a report. No longer saw her for a long time. But I can still remember her FACE !

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    3. I've read news via FB....many cases happening in KL. Couple with young kid and they will tell u all kind of sad stories. Aii.......

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    4. Sometimes, really dun know if should help or not. Nowadays, too many cons.

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  31. I will try to help them with some certain among of money
    I always think what if it is true

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  32. 我會睇對方靚唔靚女/仔,如果靚女靚仔就實畀。

    豬扒或者三尖八角嘅就一律免問!哈哈

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