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Society nowadays seriously is very easy to 利用 our 同情心, like this certain restaurant that my mom always go (basically she goes to the same restaurant every weekend) so at first she saw this lady like holding paper talking about donation to her orphanage house or what, so like for people first see it is fine and willing to donation, but after months...you'll started to feel, is that really help??
ReplyDeleteNot just coffee shop or restaurant, like those at pasar malam, sometimes really feel sad for them then donate some money to them, but every time you'll see the same person at that pasar malam, then I started to think are they really no money and no working or what, how come they can be there everyday?? Are they being there every pasar malam is consider as a "job" for them?? So should be keep on continue donate to them?? Are they taking granted for it and don't want to go to work?? How about those charity or association helping disability people one, they're not doing anything??
DeleteYes I agree, many times our sympathy is being exploited, perhaps 好人越来越多了？But 好人难做 also these days, too many scandals la!
DeleteMorning morning everybody.. Was almost late for work due to some accidents, “mud yeh mood tu mou sai”, totally gone.. But when I see SK’s update my blog read, I feel ok again pulak..
ReplyDeleteWhen the pc was still loading the picture, I thought they are kid’s stationaries, like pillow storybook, those kinda thing.. You know, very “hing” at one time, cloth book cum pillow.. They have S M L size.. The L size can be as big as your pillow timmm.. So they call it cloth book cum pillow lor.. If you flip the pages in the cloth book, there are about 5 pages, ABC or 123 or story book, depends… I really thought the post is about (baby) cloth books today..
DeleteThen I see the word tissue paper, oohh ok, tissue paper also ok ba, we use it everyday, yes?
In the coffeshop that I usually go to, seldom see those visually impaired selling tissues jor wor.. Usually I buy a packet from the fella serving drinks.. Or when I do my grocery shopping, I buy a big packet, then I take a few small packets to put in my bag, to be used for the next few weeks..
DeleteTalking about the visually impaired selling tissues, I thought of one person in Sg. Wang.. Many many years ago, when I was still tagging along with my mum to Sg. Wang (for shopping of course), we used to see this fella selling tissue papers sitting at one corner.. A whole lot for RM5 or RM10, I forgot.. I think we bought from him a few times.. Then we didn’t see him anymore..
DeleteErrr, RM1 for 1 packet is too much wor, like “sik ji seong” punya feeling, hehehehe.. I agree with you, it’s not wrong to charge a bit more, but not RM1 per one (small) packet kua..
DeleteBut if the tissue comes together with a tissue cover, like Minion or Hello Kitty, then maybe I am willing to fork out RM2 for the whole package kua..
But if it’s like normal tissue packets, err, I rather buy in the hypermarket during my grocery shopping kua.. A whole lot, with nice designs somemore like Snoopy or Mickey Mouse, cost only a few ringgit..
We always question whether the money donated actually reaches them.. Like when we donate (not to an organization with a proper cheque and all), we always wonder, does the money really go to them, or to the syndicate, whereby out of RM1, they take 90 cents and leave 10 cents for the fella.. Or worst, they take all the money and leave none for them.. Hmmmm…
DeleteErrr, did I run away from the topic again ahh? You are talking about tissues and I'm talking about "cham sau cham keok" (potong arms potong legs)..
DeleteYou know, when I was young, my parents always said: Always hold our hands, don’t run around, people catch you then potong your arms and legs, and let you beg at the streets, and you will never see us again. I was brought up with that still strong in my mind, maybe your parents too?
DeletePrincess Ribbon, I heard the same story from my mom too, when I was young. I told the same story to my two girls now. So, when I saw this type of people beg at the streets, I gave them coins and notes. I pity them. My girls are terrified when seeing them.
DeleteUsually over here, from what i usually see, is S$1 for 3 packet of tissue...
ReplyDeleteI agree with you totally. When comes to charity, we should decide how much to give and not determine by others. Aiyoyo, RM1 for 1 packet of Tissue, very expensive la! Really too much.
ReplyDeleteMinions tissue, so cute! We just watched Hero6 last night. My girls enjoyed the movie very much. "The book of life " is a sucks. Not sure in future there are Frozen tissue or Hero6 tissues or not?
ReplyDeleteInteresting right? Disney pixar movies are always very nice.
Hero movie nice ar? Heard many good reviews, wanted to bring Aden go watch, but his daddy always pretend tak tahu only.. Ish ish!
DeleteFrozen or Hero tissue, sure got la! If people wanna earn money, they will use whatever tricks to attract attention, especially kids related stuff. Smart eh?
Errr ....I don't buy most of the time. I feel that if they needed help , they should go to the welfare centres which can give them more stable health care and food. Selling tissues may not be a long term plan and it's like begging and not good for them too especially if they met hooligans.
ReplyDeleteI think it's ok for the folks to pay more but for the seller to bargain is too much. After all , the folks are helping them.
ReplyDeleteInitially I thought you are talking about folks who chop seats in food courts with tissues and minions somemore ...lol
ReplyDeleteAnyway , I don't mind giving them more if they asked politely but again , they should be encourage to check in to those welfare centres which could provide better care for them. Of course, no way if they are rude. These are probably like drinkers trying to earn some pocket money for a toddy.
ReplyDeleteSome are polite one but very 'cheong hei' wo! Will keep on asking and persuading you to buy even though you already say no, people wanna enjoy makan also cannot. Like those promoting credit card in the malls, will follow you til few shops away just to ask you to sign, hehe!
DeleteYup...nowadays they already pandai demand leh...50sen tak mau leh.
ReplyDeleteRM1 packet of tissue paper is a bit too much la. Sure the seller is what he/she claim he/she is?
Ya, they will tell you 'what can I buy with 50 cent?' Give me a bit more la please..'
Delete*pengsan*
But true la, these days 50 cent memang no value....
Encountered the tissue seller before but so far he or she did not insist on rm1 per packet of tissue paper la.
ReplyDeleteAnyway if give pun i give rm1 but tarak take the tissue paper packet as i have own tissue.
Maybe Bangsar area kira as rich man area kot . Hence they become more demanding.
ReplyDeleteUsually those in pasar malam and kopitoiam around my place okay la tarak so demanding
but i have encountered...not me la but rather my colleague la...in a kopitiam many years ago. A fake monk selling religious items. Colleague gave him rm5 for donation but the "monk" insisted RM10. Really pengsan kau kau. obviously fake monk la coz if real one mana ada ask like that one. donation all according to hear punya ma
ReplyDeleteDo you often buy tissue from these sellers? What about the seller selling other items?
ReplyDeletethere is or was(coz not sure if the man still around or not) in Seri petaling area that sell hand crafted keychains and stuff...he goes from shop to shop selling his wares.
A very scary man leh coz when he comes our table he will start like mamak calling roti canai roti telur roti tisu etc...but his is duno what keychain this and that la....for all that we tried and yet we cannot understand what he is mumbling/saying hence we will shake head and hands say don't want. Then he would mumble and spit on us. not really spit la but like cantonese say "puih!"... so darn geli. Nobody dares to retaliate coz can see from his look that he is not totally sane.
Meow, why nowadays so many people like to spit la! I saw from FB only, one road bully spat on the car windscreen. So damn ill manners la!
DeleteAfter spitting, the road bully still "patah" the side mirror. According the report, the road bully purposely drove on left lane, then cut into right lane, then cut into left lane again, when people honked him, he got mad and did spitting action . So many sickening people now. Scary!
DeleteTrue true, too many road bully and sick people these days!! Indeed very scary, sometimes I wanna bring Aden out also worry... Cause just me and him, if get unlucky met with this kinda people, I also don't know what should I do!! Even small town like Taiping also not safe anymore!!
DeleteTrue, that exploitative action brings forth a negative feeling rather than sympathy towards the person(s).
ReplyDeleteI still give to those old folks (they say syndicated from China) who come begging with a tin/cup. I still give them because I feel they are a victim of circumstance. I figured if they were able to find a living back home, would they want to leave their homeland to come begging in a foreign land. So sad.
There's another group I give to at eating places and that's the singing, physically-challenged young people (mostly) though their tunes make my eyes tear up - maybe that's why I give. Whatever..
Sorry, but I digress..
Charity should be voluntary and sincere. But most times (please excuse me for sounding harsh) we are made to feel obligated or pushed into donating. Let me relate my experience.
ReplyDeleteSome years ago, two volunteers from MAKNA walked into my office to solicit donations. I allowed them some time to talk to me even though I was very busy. Apparently there was a drive for people to sign up and donate via credit card. I am all for donating for a good cause and told them to give me the form and I will look into it. But no, they told me that I have to sign up there and then because the campaign was just for that day only.
Why, in fact the people upstairs already signed up, they told me. I was very annoyed. So what if upstairs signed up? Why should I be bulldozed to donate there and then. I am sorry to say that I gave them a piece of my mind and sent them off. That incident really put me off.
Some indeed very aggressive and pushy. I don't like this kinda people, why wanna force people? We have the rights to donate how much we want, and when we wanna do it, why must be so inconsiderate?
DeleteIf their attitude like this, I am sure many people will reject to help.
Agree.
ReplyDeleteI was once approached by a "pro charity collector" or whatever you call them who was raising fund for a home.
I actually do not mind helping but the fixed amount they asked (RM42) as the min because he told me that's how much a tin of milk cost was way too much.
Charity shouldn't come with a minimum amount, in my opinion.
Anyways, when I told him I'd check out their website and donate direct, he had the gall to ask me to use my phone right there to go to the website and THEN donate and pass the cash to him. Cheh.
Lina, you are so right! This is the sort of thing that puts me off.
DeleteOf course, some people will say... if can makan nicely in an upscale place... why so stingy to donate a few ringgit.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it's not about stingy but about integrity.
Another thing that makes me wary to donate is that some of these donated cash does not go to the charitable organisations in full or does not go at all. There are cases of abuse and that makes me angry.
ReplyDeleteThere are certain organisations that collect donations on behalf of a charitable organisation for a fee. I would rather donate directly. My auntie told me, donate. What they do is not within your control. You get the merits and if they abuse the donation, they will be punished somehow. Karma. But really, I don't want to risk my hard earned money. And I don't donate just to get merits. I have to be sincere.
Same here.
DeleteI rather donate directly instead of giving it to agents.
Over here, old man selling tissues three for a ringgit... Dont mind paying...better than those who just stick out the hand to ask for money...and i also detest those who adk for parking money...we r paying the coupons already and these guys are still asking for money when we get down from the car...if dont give they will hurl some rude remarks... Sometimes imrather park the car further to avoid these rascals... So young dont want to work but to ask money just bec they think it is their territory....
ReplyDeleteOh, am I out of topic? :)
I got that before, being complained about donating too little. It was a long time ago, at a coffee shop, I just felt like donating, so I gave RM5, then the fler asked for RM10, said only RM10 and above can get a receipt of donation.
ReplyDeleteI said sorry and sent her on her way..
Same here, faced similar situation too, given RM 2 but complain too little, asking for more, I got angry and replied, 'I only have RM 2, if you want you take, if don't want I give to someone else'.
DeleteApa la, not thankful at all, so greedy!
Then those so called 'self voluntary' jaga parking one also same, there's no group or company who ask them to come, but they will charge you money when you park at that area. Very alert one, cannot run away from their eyes, if you say 'later only pay', they will watch out for you and wait for you til you come and collect the car, die die also have to give. I can imagine how much they earn everyday, one day 10 cars, 1 car they charge RM 2, can get RM 20 already!!
Many times hubby and I refuse to pay, but we are worried they might scratched our cars?? Or do something bad to us? So in the end, we give the money also, take it as 破财挡灾 lo!
I don't usually buy tissue when I'm dining out as I have my own tissues. If for charity sake, I won't mind buying anyway.
ReplyDeleteHaiz, this is similar to those cases where you think should you donate to those beggars or children beggars who may be used by some syndicates to earn money. One school of thought is it does not matter whether you are being exploited or not as long as you are sincere in giving them the money to help them and it does not matter whether they will put your money to good use or not. Your pure helpful intention is all that matters.
ReplyDeleteAnother school of thought is don't encourage them so some countries even have a law that prohibits the public from giving food to the homeless. If you give food to the homeless you will be fined or imprisoned.
As for your question, first we must examine the definition of exploit but I am not going into that. I will just say it is up to the buyer how they feel. If they are knowingly willing to pay rm1 for a packet of tissue that costs cheaper if you buy them in supermarket, that means that they themselves don't feel exploit.
Those who are not willing to pay will see those who paid as being exploited but it really should not matter to those who don't pay because why feel bad for others who are generous enough to make a masked donation.
As for myself I prefer to just donate the rm1 to them and not even take the tissue paper at all.
Agree! If the person who donate is willing then it is not exploitation. I don't mind people saying: "I prefer to donate to orphanage than to these potentially syndicates", but I would not like people who say: "Don't give to them! Why you give to them? They might be syndicates!".
DeleteQuote Princess Ribbon: my money, my sukak lah, why you care if I do something that puts me at peace?
That's the issue we face day in, day out. Are they genuine? Are they controlled by a syndicate? We have good intention to donate or help but are our contributions going to fall into the wrong hands? Sometimes, I'll just donate and not even take the packet of tissue. But as I see them going from table to table and how easily everyone part with their RM1, I can't help but think these people make more money than we do!
ReplyDeleteGood morning bloggers!
ReplyDeleteThis is such a common sight at the steps of the wet market near my home. I normally would drop off money to every single one without taking their tissues at all. When doing charity, it means just give from my heart and shut my mind on all other matters.
I am not sure if that place is the same Indian restaurant in Bangsar which has many visually impaired people selling tissues. They come all day esp late at nights while the place is packed. Again, I just gave without taking tissues as I felt sad to see them living in the world of darkness. Just a ringgit is not much but may help them in a long way. At least they came out to sell something instead of sitting at home doing nothing as most companies have no jobs for them nowadays.
Deletei dun feel that is sort of daylight robbery, it is for donation and we can choose not to donate. Is either 'donate' or 'not donate' and is done willingly. Talking of daylight robbery, there are plenty of sellers out there (food business, banks, services offer, barber shop, apparel shop, list goes on) that is even 'robbing' us of our $$.
ReplyDeleteWell, RM1 donation (& given a packet of tissue) is kinda norm, i have even donated RM1 for such a few years ago (i view the "packet of tissue" as 'token of appreciation', rather than buying a packet of tissue from them). But if RM10 donation, then gets some cheap stuff or nothing...then different story la...
Yo American Man! Fret no more dude, just come here to Bangsar and buy some tissues to cover your bloody eyes! Once covered, ya see no evils and no pussies. Why whine for days like a retarded sissy in all our blogs? Seems like many fellas need help badly like Beatrix and now ya. Adoi!!!
ReplyDeleteMuahahaha! Anay, Yannie afraid that American Man will get the biggest leap award from SK0617 in the annual chart, and SK needs to send him a personalised CD of all non-American female singers.
ReplyDeleteyeah, i do saw people collecting "donation" nearby Mid Valley KTM station oh~
ReplyDelete我觉得大多数人都会照给，那些"卖东西的"就是抓住这一点来卖贵点~
ReplyDelete所有呢啲捐錢，兜售手工品，賣紙巾等等我都絕情一概拒絕，no way.
ReplyDeleteThese days, people will try and use many ways to 'earn money', asking little kids to come ask for donations, or even handicapped people come and sell stuff, or woman carry 2-3 kids sitting by the corridor asking for money.
ReplyDeleteI even see a few ah pek sitting outside the temple which I go often, when they see people come to pray, they will start to stand up and wait for you near the car. If one come approach me asking for money, I'll give either RM 1 or RM 2 la, but if more than 1 come, sorry I need to go, of course I'll just smile and wave my hands and get into the car quickly. Luckily so far nothing happen, I mean they are not aggressive, some will started to 'scold' you if you refuse to give money! Some even will complain RM 1 not enough la, give me a bit more la!
Wah, these days punya people sure getting daring! Got money consider good already la, please be thankful, some more wanna request for more! Ish ish!
If situation permits I'll try my best to help geh, but in this society these days 好人难做啊！ We never know if that person is really in need of helps or is really handicapped, they might cheat also ma right? So sometimes cannot blame us for not helping, cause we also wanna protect ourselves.
Erm usually if need to donate to charity, I'll choose to go to the center and pass my money/donation, instead of giving them on the spot. Cause the cert they show me could be fake one, anyone also can copy. Or I will ask them where is their center, or any numbers to call, at least can test if they are real or not.
DeleteLike for example, my friends and I will collect old clothes and buy some daily necessities and bring to the orphanage/old folks home, they have this building and office so confirm they are real la! And depends on case, sometimes I think buying goods is better than giving them money, like clothes, books, pampers, toilet paper, rice, snacks and etc, more useful lo. Unless if during CNY, we give ang pao la, 意思意思咯 =)
RM 1 for the packet of tissue is a bit too much la honestly, everyone also know a packet of tissue no need that expensive, even if include the nice cartoon packaging, obviously they just wanna 'earn' lo, 明抢的咯！
DeleteBut depends on individual lo, some will think RM 1 only, give them la! Some will think, huh RM 1 so expensive, no way!! =)
For me, if this person comes and sell this, I will refuse to buy, cause usually I will bring own tissue whenever going out, so I no need to buy tissue, haha!! Plus, not a fan of minions, so won't attract my attention :p
I have this so called American man which spam my posts lately!! I saw him spamming at other blogs too, damn irritating!!
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