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2014.03.19 | 馬來西亞

[Volume 9 Issue 3, #1872]
我曾經遇過一位來自馬來西亞沙巴州嘅朋友, 佢係以「西馬朋友」嚟到稱呼我哋幾位朋友嘅.. 好喇, 喺我未開始之前, 我要聲明以下絕對係本人嘅個人觀點, 當然我亦都尊重每個人嘅想法(同埋因而產生嘅所講所寫).. 歡迎大家留言, 無論讚同我嘅觀點又好, 話我過份敏感又好, 反駁我嘅觀點又好, 想知道大家嘅意見.. :)
  
i once stumbled upon a friend from the state of Sabah of Malaysia who referred a few of us as his "West Malaysia friends".. okay, before i start, allow me to stress that this is purely my personal opinion and of course i respect what others think and hence, say or write.. welcome comments to agree with my views, or to tell me that i am overly sensitive, or even to refute my points, i would like to hear from you.. :)
  
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    1. Found that I hardly said west or east friends, instead I think just mention which state he/she is better and easy....(coz lazy to think this is west or east...yes, I can be very lazy on anything)

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    2. Zhou San Kam Tor Pang Yao.. Sleep well yesterday night?

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    3. Yep, very well yesterday, morning!!! morning!!!

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    4. Louiz changed photo ady, you don't want to change yours...

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    5. Elo, Angeline.. Yesterday you so quiet.. Did you see my comment on the blog roll status? Up til 3-4pm, your blog roll status still remained as "Homemade Playdough 1 day ago" leh..

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    6. I'm very lazy to selfie...hahaha~~~
      Okay, okay, maybe will do it when I'm free!!!

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    7. Selfie very easy only wor.. And no need to mafan people to take for you.. You just use front camera and snap snap snap, snap until you are satisfied only wor..

      Or better still, just snap snap snap, then slowly go back to gallery choose which one you want lor.. I like selfie coz cepat & senang & efficient, kekekeke..

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    8. I cannot, since the person (me) so pretty argh, so must have good lightning, good background then good angle...selfie for me is super ma fan one!!!

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    9. Xiao Ying, you must take a new selfie look leh... Probably sk need to update his quarterly report leh... mana tau one day you're one of the top 5 in his chart leh....

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  2. Morning.. I've changed my picture here.. How? Ok mou?

    Baru commented in your previous post and drinking my Milo, clicked refresh and saw your new post liao..

    Ooohh, so today it’s about Geography ahh? I can’t write essays on this topic, gotta be frank, but still can drag and write a little, haha..

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    1. Here, in the office, when the manager or sales need to go to Sabah or Sarawak, they will still say “Oh, we need to go to East Malaysia tomorrow to visit who&who”.. And when there’s phone call for them the next day, the receptionist or the people in the office will also say “Oh, Mr.xxx is not in, he’s in East Malaysia”…

      I realize the word “East Malaysia” is used very widely here, rather than saying “Oh he’s in Sabah now, can you please call his mobile?”…

      If you are talking about work, we use the term “EM” (East Malaysia) very often.. Almost everyday.. Reports are done using this EM term.. It is divided into a few sectors here, we have short forms for it:
      1) PS (Public Sector)
      2) MC (Main Con)
      3) SC (Sub Con)
      4) OG (Oil & Gas)
      5) WS (Wholesaler)
      6) EM (East Malaysia)
      7) ExO (Export-Oceania)
      8) ExA (Export-Asia)
      9) ME (Middle East)
      So you see, from the above, it is categorized according to sectors, and “EM” (East Malaysia) appears almost everywhere in company reports, quotations, company meetings, what-nots..

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    2. Ok, enuff about work, if you are talking about personal friends, I don’t have friends from Sabah or Sarawak, so I never address anyone before as “friends from East Malaysia” or “I’m your friend from the West”, etc..

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    3. Talking about personal feelings, I can relate.. Trying to imagine here.. If my friend (from Sarawak) introduce me to his/her family saying “This is Louiz from West Malaysia”, I feel awkward.. Can’t he just say I’m from KL? What’s so difficult about mentioning KL? Gee… Terbalik if I introduce my Sarawak friend to my family and friends, I think I will also automatically mention “This is xxx from Sarawak”.. Wont say East Malaysia kua, like very alien like that, kan?

      But automatically, if it’s in the office, I will use the word “EM”, biasa already..

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    4. Hmm, interesting topic, but I can only write so much about it today, keke..

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    5. Intellectual topics, I also must write intellectually, gee.. Cannot simply incorporate my princess-fairytales-nonsense-aunty stories in this post, else, bikin malu.. Meow, if you are reading this, I know, your copyright..

      In a nutshell, to wrap things up, if it’s personal friends, I would address them properly, like xxx from the state, or town in the state.. If it’s work, automatically I will say EM kua, coz I have been using this term in the workplace for many years.. If the company sends me for training in Sabah/Sarawak, I will also automatically tell my family “I’m going to East Malaysia for training tomorrow”.. I think la.. But belum cuba belum tau la.. Coz I’ve never been to Sabah/Sarawak before, heh..

      Belum happen belum tau.. Sudah happen baru tau.. After really happen only I come back to this post and comment can ahh?

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    6. I thought you've already changed the picture yesterday, or you change again and change back now?

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    7. Yesterday changed liao at 3.15pm.. Still the same picture, but cropped so that face bigger nia.. The first picture head smaller.. This is the 2nd picture actually, same one, but head bigger, just cropped nia.. Kekekeke..

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    8. Ooo...no wonder...I thought is the same one, can't see clearly la, the picture icon is very small, hehehe!!! The picture on this page at the right hand side under "recent popular post", your head is much more bigger!!! =p

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    9. Actually I'm very happy to see the Malaysia map. I don't know why... I'm proud to be a Malaysian. Will come back here again later...with more says...

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    10. I like to see Malaysia map, at least from it can see it's a safe place, no volcano, no earthquake, (maybe tsunami few years ago but not very often) can say is a country without much natural disaster!!!

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    11. Waiting for you sweetie.. But I have work to do today. Dunno can spam like nobody's business like yesterday mou.. We'll see how k?

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    12. Xiao Ying, so big head better or small head better?

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    13. I like the small head, but the big head clear a bit!!!

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    14. Hmm, no need to see my face so clear la.. "tai dou yatt tit, tai mm dou yatt tit" (can see little bit, cannot see little bit), baru suspense, kan?

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    15. Hahaha...as you like lo, you happy then is okay la!!!

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    16. If SK is here, I think I know what he wana write: Your photo, your blog, your face, your sukak!

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    17. I was counting all the deducted scores you ladies would earn in the next chart!!!! That includes this comment of mine too!! Wakakakaka

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    18. That depends on SK la.. If he is in a good mood that day, he won't deduct la, just don't kira in only.. But if he is in a good mood, maybe he will count in the scores for "mou liew" comments as well.. Virtual kopitiam ma, kan? For us to blow water, pass the time, "sip nga la" and waste some time.. Ooohh and to pretend to look bz too :)

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    19. Go on dreaming gal.... Me being his anay also earned the highest Talk-Cock scores in all his charts until we learnt to talk lesser craps. SK has his own detox software to scan our non relevant nonsense! You will be crowned the Queen for this as well.

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    20. Detox software? Wah, he really macam-macam ada, macam-macam boleh hor? I think ahh, the "detox" software you are talking about is himself hor.. Maybe he manually count and check every night quietly, we dunno only..

      Ok lah, I will stop talking koks and try to talk more related to the topic.. But hor, I gotta be frank, today's topic, I don't have so much to talk about leh.. Entah.. Macam tak tau ape nak cakap.. Kekekeke..

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    21. Goodness, this blog post is getting swarmed with too many non relevant topics already. It is torturing many silent eyes!
      There's my crap talk, her lesbo talk and his noodles talk! Adoi. Mak Tolongggggg!!!

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    22. Don't make me die now from laughing.. I'm chewing on a sweet..

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    1. Good Morning Sharon!!! =]

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    2. If introduce friends from West Malaysia, there's so many place in West Malaysia, why not introduce as like SK, you're from KL, friends from KL...

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    3. Good morning Sharon from Singapore (Should it be this way to address a friend like that?) I would say I will just call her Sharon (Because being a friend do not have to specify where is she from because we are friends, don't have to be too calculative) .

      p/s: I've browsed over Sonia's site. No prob I can take you there...

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    4. Good morning Angeline...For me, ok this way, ya agreed, hehe...

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    5. I do say my KL friend too...unless there are more than one of them from different places, so I would say "my West Malaysian friends" or he or she is someone who will move here and there - in Malacca, then in KL and now in Penang...so dunno exactly which to use - Malacca friend, KL friend, Penang friend...easier to just say "West Malaysian friend".

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  4. I always say that, though I am not from Sabah...and I also say my friends from Sabah.

    We are one country but we are different in many ways. Like if I give kampua to someone in Sarawak, it may not be appreciated as much as my "West Malaysian friends" since they cannot get it there...or maybe they can at selected places, not as nice as the original here.

    No discrimination of any sort. In fact, if somebody says, my friends from West Malaysia - it is some kind of flattering. Wahhhhhh!!!! Especially in the old days, because of the geographical divide, people here hardly had any friends in the peninsula. I am so very thankful that I have had many over the years...and through blogging, I have even more.

    Wish I could have more in Sabah though. My friends there, mostly those that I got to know when I was working - none through blogging.

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    1. You love to use this phrase the most....

      Should I address you as East Malaysian too? No way, I have more polite and glamorous way to address you as our Sibu's Food Mayor or Kampua King! Wakakakaka

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    2. I guess that's because I'm the only one from this side so you only see me using that phrase...or "in the peninsula" - same as you Penang people will always refer to those "from the mainland" like there is a difference or they're not in the same state.

      No problem calling me your friend from East Malaysia, Sibu or Sarawak...just don't get confused. Many don't know the difference and will ask me if I'm from Sabah or Kota Kinabalu...or things over there that we here do not know much about.

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    3. It is so true that I being a Penang born often got this question - Are you from island or mainland? As if they want to calculate my asset values. Well, this soon became sensitive questions as mainlanders felt shy.... I better stop here!

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    4. See! I'm right! I'm always right! Hehehehehehehe!!!!

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  5. Good Morning Bloggers! My friends in Sibu and Kucing have the habit to mention - "West Malaysian" over the phone too instead of saying that fella resides in KL or Penang. They label us as big spenders in big cities! Sigh! I would shoot them back as the "heirs of timber and oil tycoons".

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    1. Ok, I'll say it - a West Malaysian friend came and I went to the airport to pick her. The Air Asia flight was full - on a working weekday, some more...and the first thing she said me was, "Are people in Sibu very rich? Look at their luggage, boxes and boxes...and so many coming back from KL. What is there to buy in KL?" I have no answer...except that I'm not and I do not go on a shopping spree in KL or anywhere for that matter.

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    2. Some friends from dunno which kampung also always say “You are from KL ahh? KL people very wild one ahh”.. Chisin. Hope I’m not offending anyone. But please, before you use such phrase on (KL) people, do your research first.. They always feel “Oh you are KL girl ahh, no wonder lah”.. Hello, what do you mean “you are KL girl” and “no wonder”?

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    3. Not that I know. If you're a KL guy or KL girl, glamour lah. If you're Sarawak people - you're jungle people lah, still live in the trees one...which, of course, is a misconception.

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    4. LOL... Wild people should be from jungles! Wakakaka
      I agree that there are more wild and scandalous people in KL than anywhere in the country. They are not very wrong.

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    5. Hah? Like that also 'eh sai'?
      Speechless...

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    6. Hehe TM, so, I wana ask, got divide territories also or not within KL? Like.. If you mention you are from Bangsar or PJ, then oohh-ahh-waaahh.. If mention from Rawang or Jinjang, then err-oh-ok..

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    7. Yeah why not?? Klang Valley folks are sometimes looking at people with big & small eyes too! This unhealthy habits have divided many friends and associates due to the lack of self confidence. My office is a good example as we have issues with races and different nationalities all rolled into this new mess. If humans could think alike, the world would be a peaceful haven.

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    8. Agree TM! Give me 5!

      Ehh, sorry hah, run away from the topic liao.. Well, we cannot change human perception.. Their mouth, their like.. But just don’t simply say la.. Like I mention above, they always perceive as people from Bangsar or PJ or Subang like very “hi class” like that.. Even when asked where you buy your properties, or where you stay? I don’t like those questions la.. They show one-kind face..

      So TM, I'm with you.. Human will be human.. They will look at you one-kind if you say you are staying in Jinjang.. Not only houses and properties.. Even sending your child to the kindy.. If you say you are sending your child to Q-Dees or Beaconhouse, then there will be ohh-ahh-waah..

      Malas ahh.. *Yawn*

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    9. Reminds me of those days when I was looking for a job.. Relatives and 8-poh aunties uncles will ask, "Where are you working ahh? "Tai kong si" ahh (Big companies as in MNC what-nots)..

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    10. It's true that there are differences. Even in the small island of Singapore, Chin Choo pasat is very different from say, Serangoon...or Geylang...or Katong...and of course, Orchard!

      Like Sibu and the towns around like Sarikei and Bintangor would be different from Kapit or Belaga upriver...or Dalat and Mukah downriver...what more to say the towns here and the ones in the peninsula.

      I am not saying one is good, one isn't or one is better than the other...but I do think it is good to travel around one's own country to see and experience and learn. So many things right here at our doorstep, so many things that we don;t know of - like when smallkucing and family took me to Tanjung Sepat. Oooooo....I loved it so much and really enjoyed myself - it's so different and so very interesting in so many ways. Too bad the Lovers' Bridge collapsed soon after I left. Now, now...that had nothing to do with me! I'm innocent!!!

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    11. What do to with Jinjang people??? Many people have misunderstood, most of Jinjang people are secretly rich just that because most of them just know how to earn money but don't know how to spend!!! Some of those young generations also send their kids to international school just never mentioned only!!!

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    12. Agree with you Xiao Ying.. So what he/she is from Jinjang? People rich you dunno only, kan? Mm seng mm seng hak lei yat geng! (no sound sekali takutkan you).. I always think, so what and who cares where you stay, kids go to private school or not, janji pocket got money la..

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    13. I heard Lover's Bridge again and all the denials!!! If only I have access to the satellites, it could show 2 hippos stomping on the bridge until all the screws loosened!!! Still innocent like Shrek's pussy cat? Muahahahaha

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  6. "...maybe we from the Peninsular part of Malaysia are not as exclusive as, and things are never better than those across the sea??..." In fact, it is the other way round. People here will tell their friends that they're going on a holiday. KL! Wahhhhh!!!! Penang! Wahhhhhhh!!!! But if I say I'm going to Kuching, they'd probably just say, Oh.

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    1. You are funny and cracked me up.... kikikikikikikiki

      When my friends from Penang visited KL, they insisted on shopping for clothes and stuffs from IKEA so that they could show off to the folks and friends who have the habit to check on their shopping loots. It's like a trend that they need to cart home some loots and tales to brag to office colleagues. I heard Kidzania became a 'must visit' place for their kids too. My visitors would tell me to drop them at Kidzania and IKEA as standard practice. Since they could not buy furniture home, they never failed to buy that plastic bag canister to store rubbish bags.

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    2. I've never been to IKEA. Sobssssss!!!! What to do? My "West Malaysian friends" never bother to take me there... How I would love to try their so-famous meatballs...and their curry puffs. Bwahuhuhuhuhu!!!!!!

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    3. Okei okei please stop crying and Bwahuhuhuhuhu, so big baby already! I make sure someone will bring you there to shop till your pants drop and have the meat balls on "Eat All You Can" basis!! Hear that SK? Muahahahahaha I wonder why none of your so called good West Malaysian friends fetched you to eat here, here, here and what nots but didn't go to IKEA? You ended up on the shaky lover's bridge at Morib Beach with Kaldip!! Adoi!!!

      Muahahahahaha!

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    4. Maybe too many places to go to, and too many people lining up to take me out...too little time, plus I never asked - shy wor...ask people go here, go there...up to them to take me, just ikut. I am so much loved by all mah. Wink! Wink! Hehehehehe!!!!!

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    5. STP from SIbu you talk more recently....good job!

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    6. That friend showinf off lar tu from Island Penang to IKEA...I also went before once mar... nothing special lar... why other furniture shop at Penang kenot get meh.... must go that far ka?
      Kidzania I went already too.

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    7. STP and TM, when come to shopping, people will always mentioned they went to Penang and KL just for shopping spree. Biasa lah tu...

      I have a few friendd will purposely go down to Penang just for their hair cut. I guess the hairstylist at the Island is more famous gua. Came back mentioning spending hundreds of dollars for their exclusive haircuts. For me, it still look the same leh...make no difference for me.

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    8. Wah, yau mou ahh? Your fren purposely go to Pg just for her hair cut? She better look boombastic after that.. Coz she still looks normal, I paiseh wana announce I purposely go so far to cut hair la, keke..

      Chan hai hou kua cheong wor.. Or maybe just showing off? Jadi siew-lai-lai, too free nothing to do, can go here there, go penang hair cut, then go JB mani pedi, then go Genting for a coffee, then to Bukit Tinggi for hi-tea, then back to Kuala Selangor eat seafood dinner...

      Heh, just imagining..

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    9. Got this kind people in this world one. Guess they hire a McGyver becomes their si kei - driver...

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    10. Yep, there are this kinda ppl one.. In fact, macam-macam ppl got in this world.. Too rich, too free nothing to do kot.. Got driver fetch here there.. Jealous.. I also want.. Psssst, who doesn't want?

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    11. Got le, some even said I miss what food and what food, so must fly there to try it again....o.O!!!

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    12. Xiao Ying, if like that, then I assume that person either lots of money, or lots of time, too free nothing to do, purposely wana find things to do, hahahaha.. *sour grapes*

      I also want la.. Who doesn't rite? But no choice wor, I cannot fly to Paris to drink coffee coz hubby not enuff money let me spend like that.. Huhuhuhu...

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    13. Believe it or not...Some rich people in China is like that, super duper rich!!! They can just buy want they want...also people in Dubai, furniture in their house can all paint in gold!!!

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    14. Hahaha, I thought only happened in movie... real life also got this kind of people

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    15. They're, it's up on the news, can't be fake!!!

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  7. I don't usually use West Malaysia or East Malaysia. People from EM is usually from Sabah or Sarawak. I agree with SK. Just mention the state or town, I'm sure everyone in Malaysia should know.

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  8. I have so many West Malaysian friends - very very good ones, some ever closer and a whole lot nicer than my friends in East Malaysia...or Kuching...or even right here in Sibu - they're simply the best.

    Now, other than some insignificant acquaintances you all had in college or in the uni, how many of you can actually say the same thing about your East Malaysian friends - your Sabah friends or your Sarawak friends?

    The bottom line is it all boils down to the individual - you, you and you! I am so thankful to be blessed with such wonderful friends - in West Malaysia or wherever in this country or other countries in the world, praise the Lord! It does not matter who or here they are or what I call them. PERIOD.

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  9. Ahhhh!!! I got this message via my inbox on Facebook:
    "Hi, my hubby and I will be visiting Sibu over the weekend next month. If Melissa and you are available, I'm keen to meet you all (your wife too). Perhaps we can go makan..."
    I knew her before when she was doing her masters or phd in NZ, was a blogger then...now back in Malaysia and married.

    I do not know where she's from originally...or where she is now, Pahang, I think - maybe I will find out when she comes...but for the time being, I will tell my missus - my "West Malaysian friend" is coming next month... Nothing to it at all, nothing good, nothing bad, nothing to be sensitive about.

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  10. I agree with you on all counts.

    Actually, stating that you're his/her West Malaysia friend is kinda OK.

    I've been referred to as "orang Malaya" before. I guess some are still stuck pre-1963 in which they haven't even born yet! Nice to know how segregated we are, sometimes.

    Because other than these people, I never realised there was a difference between us. All I know is that we're all Malaysians. Period.

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    1. Yes, we are Malaysians after all !

      Orang Malaya sounds strange right? Macam orang dulu dulu...

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    2. Is like back to study history last time which we'll call that!!!

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  11. Hello SK KL Blogger Fren! Coming by to say hello...

    Let me relate something... last time when I was in HK or China (cannot remember where) the people refer me as "Ma Lai Yan".. for a moment I was like "huh".. I wanted to say I am a "tong yan" then later I realize that we Malaysians are Ma Lai Yan to them... that makes me think.. why overseas people can refer to us as Malaysians but in our own country, we must specify ourselves as Chinese, Indian or Malays? Funny hor?
    So from now on, we are all Malaysians or should I say Ma Lai Wah Kiew... no need to differentiate already.. since foreigners also take us as Ma Lai already...

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    1. Ya, overseas, you say you're Chinese, they will think you're from China. You say Malaysian, they will think you're Malay...or they do not know where that is. But after these two weeks or so, I think the whole world knows Malaysia now...

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    2. The world is watching us - everyday. So yeah, all shall know Malaysia by now..

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    3. When people ask, I also will say I'm Malaysian. Padahal, got people thought I'm Japanese leh...hehehe!

      Claire, ever since my son enters Kebangsaan school I always warn him not to say something harsh to any races.Yes, Malaysia is a very harmony country, we have Chinese, Malay, Indians and many races as well. But, I always taught him that we are Malaysian.

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    4. You really look like Japanese leh.. At first I thought you are mixed timmm.. Like Chinese-Japanese, or Japenese-Eurasian.. Face wat- luit-luit, pak-shuit-shuit, looks pok-pok-chui too!

      Gosh, sorry ahh, sounds like "pin tai lou"... Ooops, I mean "pin tai por".. Kakaka..

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    5. Usually I'll said I'm Malaysian Chinese...but some just don't understand, I remember last year or maybe two years ago, FishLeong support Datuk LeeChongWei in her weibo, then she got scold by China's people, they said "why you betrayed China and go and support someone from Malaysia?" Then some of Malaysian fans replied them "she's Malaysian Chinese!"...Then the China people replied again "you all ancestor are from China, so you all must called as Malaysia China people!"....what???

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    6. But now seriously, no need to promote anymore, last time people don't know where is Malaysia, maybe you'll ask "do know where is Singapore? Is right above Singapore! Or maybe referred Thailand or Indo..." but now......everyone is very familiar with Malaysia map already...>.<!!!

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  12. I have friends in Sabah and Sarawak too....but I never use East M'sia to specify their place of origin because I can't differentiate East and West ! hahahah......SK must be laughing at me now !

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    1. Because of the missing MH370, I know my North South East West better ! I've been reading lots of news and learn a lot of things too.....

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    2. U know what. Johor is a STATE. But whenever I tell ppl I'm from Johor, they will jump into conclusions I'm from JB (Johor Baharu). But JB is a capital of Johor state.

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    3. My hometown is far away from JB but ppl still says, Oh....you from JB. haha...I'm used to it already and I always replied. "No....I'm from a small town of Johor state !

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    4. But then, I won't feel anything 'funny' or weird if my Sabah friend introduced me as a friend from the Peninsular M'sia....I would feel proud actually. hahaha....because saya anak Malaysia....

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  13. Good afternoon SK and all.

    Talking about malaysia ah. Yea..now should be 1malaysia already.

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    1. Malaysia suddenly became the limelight after the MH370 missing. I know my geography better now....after reading so many news about it. haha

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    2. yea Malaysia is in the limelight now. Otherwise some part of the world will still think Malaysian still live in the jungle on top of trees. Guess now the world know malaysia there is a east and west malaysia gua.
      Today tarak masuk office coz STP said sending something over. Guai guai wait at home leh . Takut poslaju come and nobody answer the door. Paiseh la STP go all the way to the pos office send me things and me not at home. Gotta worry that the parcel might hilang leh.

      tmw i also no go office. wait for SK's poslaju pulak.

      seems that poslaju in sabah and sarawak faster than y place. I sent to SIbu 4pm next day afternoon received. Sibu send to my place...3-4 days also tak tentu receive.

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    3. SK got his yesterday, TM got his today, Claire - they sent to her house TWICE...she was not at home but she collected hers today. You are the only one left... Still no sign kah? But yours not the same - not Sibu instant kampua...but something from East Malaysia lah, made in Kuching one...and no, not masak hitam paste. Hehehehehe!!!!!

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  14. Lol so ngum you put up this topic. Just last month I was chatting in FB with an author. He also posted the same question.

    But his is a bit different from yours.his was why should we address or rather catergories friends...for example when introduced a friend..this is my FB friend/school friend/work place friend/badminton friend.

    E asked so fb friend is less close than badminton friend? Or badminton friends is less close than work friend? So how to classify friend. Is a friend really a friend or does the title friend will makr friendship true?

    Saw many rssponse in his fb comments. Each give own reason. But I agree with the author la. If it is a friend then just introduced as friend la. No need introduce as this is my fb friend.

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    1. It seems like they group their own kelompok kan? Just say friend lar.

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    2. In my opinion, sometimes I will also say that he/she is my blog's friend/ FB friend/ badminton friend. At least for me it's not related to closeness, but just want to specify from where do I know them haha~
      just sharing ya =D

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  15. Ok I'm in now...

    Salam 1 Malaysia, that is the phrase we always heard from TV and radio. Why must specify a friend according to PM and EM. Those who always say like that usually are very calculative person. PM or EM we are all Malaysian leh. Friend is a friend, do not have to classify liddat one. Different saying if we mentioned someone from abroad and it is outside from Malaysia.

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    1. From my point of view, only senior people will mention like that. Maybe from their experiences, they are born like that in order to differentiate them from others. To emphasize more in depth, probably there some incident that makes them to differentiate them accurately. Will it be? Maybe right?

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    2. I won’t take it seriously lar, if they mention this friend from this North or South of Malaysia, as long as they didn’t talk bad or criticize people, well it fine for me. But don’t lar mentioned it all the time, I also will feel boring hearing it every day. Since it is your friend, just say your friend lor… The best it call their name even better.

      Since Louiz also mentioned about her work, I also want to relate today’s topic with my daily work as well. I guess my work similar with Louiz. PM or EM both are normal terms for us. Right Louiz? Sudah biasa… almost every day I’m dealing with salesperson and branches matter all around Malaysia. Sometimes the GM need sales according to customer by region, followed by sales district. Salespersons are demarcation in different territory. Since we have IT experts here, I have no problem to generate the reporting in detail every month. Since it is in detailed, only authorized person can access and run such reports. Besides monthly basis, I have to run for quarterly, half yearly and annually to do any simulation and comparison analysis for the management future undertakings and actions.

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    3. Eh, makan lunch jor la? After makan, tummy full full, minum a cup of the ais and come into this virtual kopitiam 2nd round pulak yer?

      Oh yes, am here, reading you all punyer comments.. Yep, am only using the term EM at work only.. Other than that, if I am addressing a friend, or introducing a friend, I won’t say he’s my EM friend or what la.. Will say he’s xxx (name), ma enuff lor.. If people ask further, just say he’s from Sarawak or what lor..

      Yep, those reports and company meeting thingy all already categorized into short forms.. Everyday, I hear the word EM.. Even today.. One manager went to China liao.. He’s the manager for EM sector.. Phone call came and look for him.. I still hear people answering “xxx is not in, in EM, pls call his mobile”..

      Then sometimes, my superior will just ask me “Have you sent out the report for EM”? Or “Have you emailed those EM people”?

      Ala, dah biasa.. But only for work ok.. For introducing a friend, no, ok?

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    4. Work is work and friend is friend. Even boss and ha sook, outside I still treat them as my friend. Good or bad they are my friends. I rather gain one friend rather than an enemy...ngam mou sin?

      Yeap, just say their name I also know he or she is from which region manager... sap sap sui for us... Hey but those who are not dealing this will get confuse one.. who is who? where is where? Every new staffs or trainee assign to my dept, this is the basic thing they need to know. My side very particularly in this dept matter too... Export lar, Fleet lar... Credit lar.... When I see their expenses, I will charged them accordingly. Well these are all meant for work. After 5.30pm, we are all hanging around outside for Happy Hour time... friends mar...don't be so serious lar.

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    5. Wah, after working hours, still go outside Happy Hour ahh? Jealous la.. Me hor, ever since having my kids, no more staying back or going out liao.. Got la, but seldom lor.. So everyday, it's sharp-sharp leaving the office liao.. Haih, where got time wana go Happy Hour jek.. Once in a blue moon ok la, like who & who resign, we need to do farewell party/dinner for him, so once a while can la, go out after work with them.. But not always la..

      Oh yes.. Automatic one.. In office, I will tend to address xxx from EM sector.. But outside, I call him his name one leh.. He is one of our very leng chai manager.. Very cute looking guy, kekeke.. Ehhh, I'm not flirting ahh, but my office many guys one.. Wana flirt, can.. All very nice people and will swallow my yucky cakes nomatter how yucky they are and still puji nice..

      Uikkks, what am I talking about here? Oh yes, you say don't be so serious ma.. So I talk nonsense here lor.. Like you say, I can talk non stop.. Dunno SK will deduct all my points mou, keke..

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    6. What are you doing now by the way? It's 5.05pm now.. I'm waiting... Tick tock, tick tock.. Hickory dickory dock, the Louiz waiting at her seat, the clock struck 5.30pm, the Louiz speed out, hickory dickory dock!

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    7. Example only lar... where got everyday go happy hour... no need jaga anak meh... hehehe.

      Do not limit yourself dear, SK willa dvice you liddat again one. Talk lar... who cares so much about the prices.. We can talk nonsense but need to minimum it lor... I scared he block two of us.... I oso scared. Ever since I didn't comment for Jan and Feb... guess this month I kenan deduct marks sum more... Wah, really "mou ngan tai" - no eyes see... is ok lar... it is fun to talk lively here...Cheers Louiz.

      Btw, I'm not around tomorrow first half morning...Got seminar to attend. *_^. Don't miss me oh!

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    8. Hickory dickory dock, Louiz & Angeline both went up the clock, the clock strike 5.30pm, Louiz & Angeline both ran down, hickory dickory dock!

      Can I do something here.... "I LOVE MALAYSIA" - shout out loud!

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    9. Ya wor, I really scared (not only him) will blacklist us and curse us in their hearts leh, kekeke.. This week onwards, we like chat a lot nonsense leh.. But to me, those are not nonsense, I found a new friend here, yes you.. Yep, I address you as friend.. No problem with that rite.. Ngam key, ma chat more.. Mm ngam key, ma diam-diam lor.. I'm like that.. Like TM said, you'll either love me or loathe me.. I'm direct, straight fwd and cili padi.. Those who kenal me knows I'm a sweet gal la, ahem..

      Replying to comments is like love la.. No right or wrong.. Very subjective.. Ooops, I'm talking nonsense again.. But really, there's no right or wrong here.. Just voicing out and chatting like a kopitiam nia.. After working hours, or after we log out from this blog, it's back to our family time and day-to-day home routine liao, agree mou?

      Ehhhh, you not around ahh? Ok lor, I might also take half day leave tomorrow, going back at 12.30pm, see how ok.. Means you come out from meeting, I go home liao wor.. How?

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    10. Princess Ribbon favourite phrase:
      #1 You like me, you ma come "see" me lor (my blog), you don't like me, nobody point a gun to your head and ask you to come "find" me (read my blog) or read my comment..

      #2 Kalau suka datang baca, kalau tak suka tau usah datang baca..

      #3 Suka baca boleh komen, tak suka baca tak usah komen

      #4 My blog, my style, my like, my sukak! Chui meh?

      Ok, 5.30pm coming soon.. I've left enuff footprints here.. I hope SK don't blacklist me or curse me enuff... Roger, out.. Tata..

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    11. Louiz, we both can click together leh....

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    12. If both our hearts are together, no matter where we are - JB ke KL ke, Sabah ke or Sarawak ke... we are meant to be together!..Gosh! I'm talking like a lesbian liao... Chisin!

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    13. Me and you, just one click away!
      Eh, ok, serious, 5.30pm jor, I need to "sik kei" liao..
      Lesbo? I like.. Reminds me of 1 song - All The Things She Said by T.A.T U (they are lesbo)...

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    14. Yoo...Hoo! Where are you, Louiz? Just now I came in the office this afternoon, you already gone back home right? So see you tomorrow...

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    15. Hello, am back here again.. Morning.. I purposely come back today to see got any updates or not la.. Today you got meeting right? First half.. I remember geh..

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  16. Point 1.
    Not sure how to say but I used to have a colleague who likes to name drop or rather country name drop. He would say "My friend from USA told me that XXXX is so so so good...much better than Malaysia one" , "I have a friend in Canada who works as XXX and made so so so XXX much amount of money".. " I know this Tan sri/Dato from XXX who invited me to his home " bla bla bla...

    The way he said it was like blerkkkk....wah lau eh...I want thinking...you really "friend" with your friend or you saja wanna jual nama ah....Cannot say your friend say XXbrand is good meh instead of say your friend FROM AMerican say XX brand is good.

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    1. So if I bump into SK one day, say, at Citta Mall, then what should I say? Hi, I'm Louiz from bloggerworld... And you must be SK from bloggerworld too! Kekekeke..

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    2. "You must be my blogger-friend, SK..."

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    3. "...you look more handsome/younger in your photos leh?" Muahahahahahaha!!!!

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  17. Point 2.

    This one very sensitive topic leh. Seems that now certain political party ask sabah and sarawak to be separated from semenanjung malaysia leh....dont know la....dont wanna touch about politic...manyaksensitve. Could be your friend got political issue or what....

    tak mau comment much on this coz nanti buta buta kena masuk lokap

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    1. Wah, so intellectual and "brainy" ahh? I never watch news, so I also dunno abt this leh.. haha.. I tot you wana say bikin malu.. I lah yang bikin malu, everything dunno.. Only know how to rant and cook ABC soup nia, kekekeke..

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  18. Point 3.

    "why must this friend stressed that we are West Malaysian friends" ...ahem you sure your this friend consider you as friend ah.....this friend you kenal rapat or not or just business acquaintance?

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    1. Agree.. If close ahh, where will talk like that one? It's a very natural thing ma, kan? If not very close only will talk like that.. I agree with you on this one, hehe..

      Some people, long time no call.. Sekali call, 3 things only the possibilities:
      1) wana send wedding bomb
      2) wana talk about direct-selling or insurance thingy
      3) mau pinjam duit

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  19. okay....for me case close today...no talk friend ...no eyes see....north South East West ...wanna say friend say frined la...wanna say north friend then say north friend la..


    Each will have their own wy of referring about friend. Some wanna say FB friend some wanna say school friend some wanna say penisular friend..hentam aje la...as long as it is honest address and not meant to make friend feel less valued or inferior then it's enough la.

    Don't wanna talk about friend la. later talk talk become arguement and friend also become enemy .

    Friday got new post right? i come back friday la and chat what ever tpic la.


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    1. I sokong your 2nd paragraph 100%!!!

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    2. I have FB friends - never met, dunno them personally...but we're good friends on FB, interact every day and since they never say they want to meet face to face, ok lah. That makes us...only FB friends, nothing more.

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    3. Yesterday, I went to POSLAJU again! The man at the counter saw ma and said, "Mee?" I said ya, kawan kat semenanjung nak cuba kampua Sibu (My friends in the peninsula = West Malaysian friends want to try Sibu kampua). Waiseh!!! Glamour sikit I, got West Malaysian friends.

      I would say that many here do not have any...or for that matter, none anywhere at all. I am thankful that through blogging especially I have made so many good and wonderful friends...everywhere, never mind what or how I call them - they're the best!

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  20. lastly ...a song dedicated to all friends here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxaA94HGo9A

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    1. What song is this? Currently I'm crazy over Z Chen's song:
      Zhang Zhi Cheng 张智成 - 是不是这样的夜晚你才会这样的想起我
      Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWEjzgvm_RY

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    2. Though I don't know mandarin and don't speak mandarin, I still listen to mandarin songs, those nice one la, I sure know.. I youtube whole day in office listening to songs and watching movies la.. I watched all the Mad Mad World movies in my smartphone when bosses are not looking..

      Ooops sssssshhhhhh,

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    3. Haha, Meow, I just listened to your song: 周华健 - 朋友 (Emil Chau - Peng You)

      Now I'm very free, can chit chat here and listen to songs liao.. Fingers crossed no work.. I wana sharp sharp go home ahh..

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  21. Good afternoon everyone!!!

    Har, I don't know this statement can arouse such negative emotion leh~
    coz I'm also the one who say like this, actually no other meaning. Instead of just saying Malaysia (Too general) or Sabah, Sarawak etc. (Too Specific), then I will say East M'sia =D

    However, I'm more likely to address East Malaysian instead of West Malaysian, don't know why. Perhaps I'm from West Malaysia, so I won't address my friends as West Malaysian, but will say KL, Johor, Alor Setar, etc. as I become more familiar with Peninsular Malaysia where I live.

    But yes, I do say East Malaysians instead of Sabah & Sarawak friends. Is it a kind of racism? But really don't have other meaning woh. Since u mention it, I should reflect on this issue haha~
    Thanks for sharing~ Good point (y)

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    1. I myself would just be specific. Tell the state instead of West or East?

      Never even use the term Borneo myself either, even with foreigners when talking about the two states.

      Just like I won't generalise West Coast and East Coast. Southern State, Northern state. Too damn mah fan. Each state got name mah and each state got name for different districts. What kin of Malaysian are we that we have to generalise in such a way?

      Just like I read somewhere how a person living in Ipoh doesn't know where Bukit Larut is?

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    2. Yaya Lina, I get what you mean =D
      Just clarify that people who mention west or east Malaysians maybe don't mean to be racist or contain any other complicated meaning, but just didn't aware of the way of introducing. Anyway, this is quite a good topic for the person like me to be aware of this issue nia~

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  22. Hey SK! How are you today?
    Was out for a day trip to Penang with my son and parents so now only can blog hop (though my eyes are damn sleepy already but still feel like drop you a comment before I retire to bed).
    Anyway I am feeling a little under the weather now, sorethroat and flu :( Must be the crazy weather, and also my poor body immune system la! Aicks, must take good care so that I won't spread the sick germs to Aden! Don't worry, I already consulted dr and taken medicines~
    So gonna make this comment short and must go to rest soon, and I will sure come back tomorrow to spam! Wait for me! ;)

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    1. Take care, Hayley!!!

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    2. Thank you 小影 and Angeline! I am feeling slightly better la! I guess it's the weather, it rained 2 days ago, finally. But now, it's getting hot again! And I also suspect its my body who is weak in fighting against virus! Haih, din't really sleep enough and very well lately :(

      Anyway, will rest more, you ladies take good care too! It's not a nice feeling falling sick....

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  23. Yeah, no need west or east. All of us are the same. I even tell that to Singaporeans.

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  24. You can call them Sarawakians or Sabahans but east Malaysians sounds a bit not quite right. After all, we are all the same.

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    1. Ok what...just not specific. Which state? Same as when someone says "West Malaysian". And I would say that the two are very different in many many ways - including the Malay spoken. Theirs sound like Indonesian...and you may find it hard to understand our Bahasa Sarawak, though it may be easier than what they speak in Kelantan.

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  25. Well, Initially I thought you want to blog about mh370....when I see the map.

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    1. I thought he wanted to blog about history.. Before I even read his post, I was like "shiat, geography (or history) liao sure, die, dunno wat to write"...

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    2. Chris, when I read the title, I also thought the same thing like you. But let us respect them and try not to speculate anything or say anything... I will continue to pray for them, stay positive and hope MH370 can be found soon.

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  26. SK, I think this is more a force of habit. We tend to refer to where our friends comes from like "my friend from Johor" or whichever state. Maybe some people don't make it a point to make reference but at the end of the day, I don't think it is meant to be discriminatory lah. But then again, you are right too because how many of us say, my Malay friend or my Chinese friend right? We just say my friend, right?

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  27. Well, you got your point, if you're friend with someone can just tell his/her name, don't have to specify the country, unless if asked la! Yep, definitely more polite and proper to say 'friend from somewhere'. By saying west Malaysia or eat Malaysia is very weird lo! At least directly say 'friend from Sabah, friend from KL'...
    And be it west or east Malaysia, still we are all Malaysian ma! Sometimes something doesn't have to be differentiate so clearly right?
    Hmm, I wonder who is this friend of yours? Do I know him? Sounds familiar, I also encounter similar case like this leh! Come, email me to tell me, hahahah xD (Just kidding la)

    Anyway, everyone has their own way of thinking and speaking, we just cannot control or critic too much. If we already know that friend is so particular like that, then just let him/her be.
    Of course, this is your blog your personal opinion... And no one should critic you or anything... It's a blog world, we are ok to share share ma! ;)

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    1. Not me, I'm not from Sabah...but many "West Malaysian friends" get the two confused, can't tell one from the other. But it's actually the same here - many don't know the states in the peninsula - like if I tell them my daughter was in Sungai Petani...*blur look*...in Kedah...*also blur*...near Penang. Ahhhhh!!!! That they know!

      By the way, if from PJ, Shah Alam, Klang etc...etc...still refer to as KL friend? Here, I take my friends out for dinner at my favourite cafes in town...and I would tell the bosses, they're my friends...they're from KL/West Malaysia, Australia, US, London...etc! Wahhhhh!!!! That always impress the bosses - people from so far away like the food they dish out, so flattered.

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  28. 東馬又好,西馬又好,都喺馬來西亞。

    不過老實講,喺我腦海裏面,依然覺得東馬人住喺樹上,要坐sampan正返到屋企。

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  29. Tell your friend, 1 Malaysia!

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  30. Well, as long as everyone is honest in their opinions, everything is no problem. Just say it out from the bottom of the heart, that's count. Don't be hypocrite, that's matter. I talk rubbish ka?

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