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07.11.2013 | 錯綜交錯

[Volume 8 Issue 11, #1816]
嚟到吉隆坡, 你應該可以見到處處都係縱橫交錯嘅公路同鐵路.. 由東飛去西, 由南剷上北, 感覺上好似係交通系統非常發達同先進咁樣.. 其實說到底, 我個人覺得一切都係因為欠缺妥當計劃所致, 或者更正確嚟講係欠缺完善嘅長線計劃.. 通常都係用「撲火政策」企圖解決問題, 呢都經常塞車呀?? 咁我哋就喺度起條高架公路跨過去啦 - 跟住又可以向使用者徵收過路費喇, 哇哈哈哈哈!! 又或者原本非常之有抱負嘅工程, 因為種種大家都心照不宣嘅原因, 大型地鐵最終變成微型輕鐵, 地下鐵最終變成地上高(架)鐵.. 每個項目都好似被逼降級, 但係只要有啲嘢做咗出嚟就得啦, 唔駛理佢究竟能不能夠符合未來嘅需求嘅.. 有可能係因為呢個原故, 啲嘢都好似唔駛點maintain啦, 反正到時候舊咗又或者唔啱駛, 都係棄掉或重新再起過個新嘅啦!! @_@"
come to KL and you will see almost everywhere that elevated roads and train tracks intertwining up in the air.. spanning from east to west and flying from south to north, it seems that we have a very advanced and extensive transportation network.. come to the root afterall, i personally think it is all because of the lack of proper planning, or to put it more precisely, the lack of comprehensive long-term planning.. most of the time it's a fire-fighting attempts taken to resolve issues, high traffic congestion here?? let's build an elevated road across to solve the issue - and then we can start collecting tolls from the users, muahahaha!! or when it comes to very ambitious mega projects, because of we-all-knew-what reasons, what was supposed to be big massive-transport becomes small light-transport, underground tracks become open-air elevated tracks.. everything seemed to scale down but as long as their is something resulted, there is no need to think about how well it can cater for the future.. and probably that is why things are never well maintained, because when they get old or not fit for use anymore, just ditch away or demolish the entire thing and build a new one again!! @_@"
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  1. Good morning, SK! I'm always confused when I go to KL. I could see repairs or others are carried out most of the time!

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    1. yeah, besides repairs there are also constructions and worst of all redirection and changing of direction on-going!! we in KL are confused sometimes, not to mention those not from KL~~

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  2. Wowwww!!!! So impressive...like countries overseas! I've never used those trains though - jakun, jungle people...scared! LOL!!!

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    1. Hay! You used on of those when you came to meet me in person, right? Very convenient, eh? Sure beats getting caught in the jam...or getting slaughtered by those KL daylight-robbers - the taxi drivers!

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    2. hey STP, same here.. in Ipoh no mrt or lrt...so dont really know how to use leh... will get confused.. normally my kids will lead the way,...i just follow..

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    3. that picture is indeed a place in countries oversea!! i just randomly grab a picture from the internet to post!! oh, you've never used our LRT?? hmmm, a true fact also, because when you are in KL you are too spoilt by all your friends to drive you everywhere right?? and if there is no transport out of the hotel, you would rather stay in~~ hehe!! and yes, i have been taking the LRT and trains and sort of public transport all these while.. :p

      claire, you got your kids to lead you, so not a problem.. but i think STP will have to be the lead when he is with his missus and daughter~~ :D

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    1. One thing i don't like about the MRT/LRT whatever it is, is that, you have to come out and get in again to change, not like the one in SG where u just walk over to the other line to transfer...

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    2. Was thinking, if those with kids or elderly, won't it be inconvienent?

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    3. yes very true and that's the weird thing so obviously seen!! the LRT systems were developed by different companies back then and of course they planned separately with no integration in mind.. so you have to get down and walk to another station, and even the same station you have to cross the road to get to the other platform!! so inconvenient.. only now a single company takes over the management that they are working on the integration..

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    4. I almost praised the subways in Japan, China and Taiwan for having this easy to change line systems. It is all about good planning.

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  4. Good morning SK, had my vegetarian breakfast and teh! What a nice sunny morning!

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    1. wah, so healthy having vegetarian breakfast?? errr, i also vegetarian, haha, oats with fruits and nuts~~ :p

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  5. I like the MRT system in Singapore, fast and convenient! By the way, had posted the small gift to you, you should be able to receive within a week.

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    1. yeah, the MRT system in SG is so much better than our KL LRT/Monorail system.. haiz, i hope the MRT we are not building will be better then.. oh, thanks so much, i shall wait for the gift~~ :)

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    2. Yes I love the MRT systems in Singapore which connects to every single area in the republic island. That I salute the town planners and government for the good example. Even Bangkok is better connected than her in KL.

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  6. Good morning SK. Today I didnt go to work, on MC.. wahahaha.. medical "cheat"... Oops, I mean, on medical cert.. Down with flu and sore throat...

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    1. Errrr, to be honest, I'm from KL, but I never seen the place you posted in your picture above leh.. The location in KL mou?

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    2. I belif the location is somewhere in KL hor, coz your 1st sentence started with "come to KL....."..

      You know, in my life, I have only took the train for less than 5 times. I very malas wana change the train halfway, like take the train from here to KL Sentral, then from there change another type of train to another place, then change again to reach the destination..

      Imagine from Maluri station to Pudu station via LRT, then if we need to get to Wisma Genting, we need to walk from Pudu jail area to Time Square to get to the Monorail, to be able to get to Wisma Genting.. What a drag...

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    3. LouizYee,
      You go check the wikimedia link that's on the photo lah... Maybe can get the answer there. :P

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    4. wah, using your "medical cert" to "medical cheat" in order to"medical chat" here?? hehehe.. get well soon lah, and hope you don't spread to Kenzie, haha!!

      errr, this place is surely not in KL lah, i just randomly picked up a photo from the internet and posted it here.. fuyoh, so you are going to Wisma Genting from Maluri ah?? not too bad mah, from Maluri to Hang Tuah and then change to monorail to Raja Chulan then you are at Wisma Genting already..

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    5. Whoa.... I'm laughing at your medical cert --> medical cheat ---> medical chat here... rhymes so well..

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    6. hahaha, not bad what, though on MC, you are still not MC (mong chacha) yet~~ :p

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  7. I always think our town planners (and most of our officials) think for short term.

    Solve one problem when they see it and never anticipate change and future problems that might arise.


    Example : How KTM never expects Mid Valley KTM station to be so popular and has high traffic. (Like duh...)

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    1. yes, that is exactly what i wanted to say.. lack of long-term planning and fire-fighting only lah.. i also rather take bus and not take the KTM to/from MV lah.. oh, i so hope with the development at the Eco-something across the river opposite MV, there will be a bridge built right across and connecting the LRT station with MV lah.. then i very senang already~~ :p

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    2. Do you know that the reason LRT pass by itu obsecure Wisma Pantai and that lonely stop at Abdullah Hukum instead of lalu near MV is due to politicking and cronying?

      Nuff said.

      Now only sebok-sebok..

      I've seen the plan for the bridge. Yes, let's hope it will come to fruiton and our commute will be much easier after this.

      Not that I have any trouble walking from MV to Bangsar Station though. :P

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    3. errr, i do not know the reason for sure.. else i wouldn't be complaining, haha!! right also huh, probably it's all politics and also crony things that they did not even think of building the pedestrian bridge to link up the nearest station..

      aiyoh, you really walk from MV to Bangsar station?? errr, can walk ke?? i actually find it not too safe to walk cos the walkway for pedestrian is so narrow and cars are moving so fast.. hujan lagi jangan, get all wet not because of the rain but the cars splashing water on you!! haha~~

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    4. can. I don't use the flyover.

      Walk cross the pedestrian bridge in front on North Tower. Cross bridge. Pass throught those low cost house. Naik another pedestrian bridge at Jalan Bangsar. Then walk straight to Bangsar station.

      I used to do that when Raimie was a baby, lugging a bag full of frozen milk I pumped in the office; kept in a cooler box.

      It took less than 15min.

      Of course, if walk on those flyover, faster. Few people do that. But I don't like it.

      By using the route I mentioned, I get my exercise too. ^^

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    5. Quite a few people do this, walk to Bangsar station using the route I take.

      I still do it, whenever I'm taking the LRT to town. Much faster than wait for KTM Komuter to arrive, board one then transfer at KL Sentral.

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    6. Aiyoooo this Ah Boy is not aware about the easy to walk bridge linking Bangsar to mid Valley! My wife used that quite often that's how I know it.
      Anyways I have been tempted to use that bridge that links Bukit Bintang to KLCC. I saw that it was air cond and we could take scenic views through their huge windows! Has Ah boy used that bridge?

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  8. If jam and hate to drive, take bus or cabs. Complain about taxi drivers - then rent a car. Or mooch off unsuspecting friends. If dun wan also, use public transport like KTM or LRT. Or walk.

    No pride in gloating over the fact that one never use public transport, one doesn't like jam, one doesn't walk... etc. Just saying.

    Not in accordance to today's topic. Sorry.

    I guess I'm in a foul mood due to some discussion over race regulations over at facebook.

    Sorry everyone!

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    1. aiyoh, what happened to Mak Glam?? today sounded so angry like wanna belasah everyone~~ ooopsss, dunno what happened but just calm down else not pretty already :p

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    2. Have you read my rantings on FB timeline. Habis berleter from morning till evening. All because of one race issues. The others seems like no balls to defend the cause and just keep quiet let the senior runners say anything.

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    3. ooopsss, sorry ya, have been quite inactive in FB recently lah.. think it's kind of boring there.. hahaha!! :D

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    4. i put blogging before facebooking, i should say that, haha!! :D

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    5. I'm pretty much equal at blogging and FB. Not so much tweeting though.

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    6. I am facebooking more than blogging now.

      Last time, blogging more than facebooking one.

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  9. Good afternoon SK and guys! Thursday already, woohoo!

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    1. Hmm yea, those fly overs can look very advanced to certain people, but I guess the main reason for the country to build fly overs is to ease traffic right? But at the end, more and more fly overs appears but they don't solve any traffic congestion also? Of course I am aware that the number of vehicles are increasing day after day la!

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    2. Actually some fly overs are quite confusing also, especially for people who are not staying at KL/PJ like me. Each time I go KL, I'll bring my GPS along just in case, of course I know how to go certain places la like Sg Wang, Times Sq etc, but to me KL roads are always changing, so must spare a GPS so that I won't get lost, haha xD

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    3. And speaking of that, I actually more familiar about PJ than KL =)
      My BIL stays at PJ area so we always lepak around there only...

      Hmm, you talked about things are never well maintained, this is true! 大家有目共睹.. Actually not just roads, other public facilities as well, sigh~

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    4. yeah, we in KL sometimes also can get confused, not to mention people from outside KL.. there are always changes to the direction and routes are redirected, aih, susah lah.. hehehe, actually it's good to have a GPS lah, and Waze is good as it can tell you which way has heavy traffic so you can avoid..

      errr, lots of factors and problems with the traffic lah, i think it's not a problem that can be instantly solve, but then at least something more long-term and anticipating the needs of future has to be properly planned lah.. not just happy happy build something here and there, and when the problem arises, repeat the same procedures again.. that will never solve the issues lah.. and regarding the maintenance, haiz, needless to say lah, we all understood~~ :D

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    5. I always noticed that the folks in KL and PJ are not very familiar with each other's areas, short cuts and the routes to housing areas. They are too comfortable with their own territory and vicinity without wanting to explore much. My wife's Aunty lives in Happy Gardens for some 40 years and does not know how to drive to Publika, Mont Kiara or even Damansara Heights! How ignorant woman!

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  10. My second home is just nearby Bandar Mahkota Cheras, during PH I can reach home within 10 minutes from Midvalley but on the normal days 2 hours hahahahaha.. magical road!!!!

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    1. fuyoh, Cheras very famous for traffic congestion lah.. seems like so many residential areas there but yet there is like only one main road leading to downtown?? :p

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    2. Cheras is the biggest outing area in Klang Valley yet the road systems and congestion could never be solved. Time to change wakil rakhal, ini kali lah.
      Even with LRT lines it could not solve much! Hailks.

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  11. There are too many road humps in my area too, so pregnant people should move to somewhere else before their due date, otherwise the baby will be born in the car hahaha.. Ambulance won't be able to rescue too ngehehehehe

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    1. hahaha, actually come to think about it not bad also lah, it helps you to deliver baby faster and no need to struggle for hours and even days~~ :p

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  12. Facebook is boring i prefer blog so happening in our blogs

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    1. yeah, i guess so.. that is why i always blog first before facebook :)

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  13. KL my hubby is my navigator - no need GPS for those places he went for the first time. Most of the time he is my best driver. He takes us to everywhere around KL.

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    1. I'm not from KL, so we'll go to KL once a while for shopping purpose whenever my hubby goes to meet his customer. Everytime I 'm there I always feel weird because the road, the fly overs and everything seems new to me. Everytime also change route...make me blurr like sotong only. Luckily I have my hubby around.

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    2. But there's once time Christmas, we went to KL after coming down from Genting. Already passed the Plaza Toll, we were both talking and looking at the new palace, see see mana tau overshoot to another turning. Damn it.... Sigh... No choice have to use that route and get it out from there. We were inside the car for about an hour plus before we reach KL.

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    3. I reckon the massive changes in KL area... not proper plan like what you have mentioned - also true. But for them they are not think like that. Maybe they thought this is something good for the country to develop.

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    4. Every where also traffic jam. My bro's job needs to travel everywhere... Or else he would say take MRT better...

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    5. so your hubby is very familiar with the roads and places in KL?? wow, actually there are places that i do not know also.. and when i am in PJ i can get lost easily, i find the roads in PJ even more complicated, haha!! :D

      and you are right, always digging here and digging there, changing direction and redirecting you here and there in KL lah, especially now that the MRT is being constructed.. that's very true because no proper long-term anticipation and planning, just fire-fighting to solve the problems in a short-term approach..

      oh, your brother is working in KL?? and he is on his way flying to UK for his all-expenses-paid trip.. how nice~~

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    6. Your hubby is always familiar with KL roads and could chauffeur you around is a bonus! Are you sure he was not KL lang? My Penang friends who often drove down to KL like over 100 times still got lost his way and ended up in Klang. I think smart drivers are gifted with built in compass in their heads. Kudos!

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  14. We always stay at Dorsett Regency if possible. So it was just about 5mins walk to Pavillion and Bukit Bintang area. So when my hubby went off for meeting, I and my kids lepak around Pavillion lor until he'll pick us up from there.

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    1. My bro lives at Cheras with my aunt too far for us. My hubby prefer to stay around KL.Since everywhere is so jam, we prefer to walk just like every foreigners do!

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    2. I realised something even though there are so many massive project build this and that...but there are still so jam everywhere. Not even that, most of the big projects are develop and construct at those well known places.. but there some urban places still left behind.

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    3. I started to like Dorsett Hotels now. The one in Shanghai and Singapore are both located right above the subway train stations. getting everywhere is a breeze! So this KL's Dorsett is also hidden in a strategic location that is truly near to Monorail and shopping malls.

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    4. oh, Dorsett Regency would be a nice place to stay in such a strategic location, i guess you can easily spend a day shopping in Bukit Bintang.. and you can actually take the free shuttle bus to go to KLCC if you had not enough shopping, haha!! :p

      ah, i see, you lucky brother is staying with your aunt in Cheras.. errr, Cheras also in KL lah but that area is famous for massive jams.. probably worse than what you see in Bukit Bintang area with lots of constructions digging here and there, haha!!

      oh, Anay has been staying in Dorsett Hotels in Shanghai and Singapore?? orang kaya lah~~

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    5. I'm sure TM stays at JW Marriot before with bartler service.

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    6. he sure stayed in very lavish many-star hotel when he travels lah.. maybe he will be staying in Burj Arab or The Atlantis when he happens to go to Dubai..

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    7. Marriott at Bukit Bintang now so expensive compared to pre-2000. Service wise, I rather prefer Ritz Carlton, Hilton or Le Meridien.

      Used to like Renaissance until all the nice and friendly butlers on their club level changed to Ritz Carlton and Mandarin Oriental. Huhuhu

      You all so KAYA to be staying at so many nice hotels.

      I'm happy with 3-star Everly Hotel now. :P

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    8. Hey even tumpang at people house also shiok one. Can chi chat until late at night, pillow talk all night long. I'll do that if I'm alone...tak payah stay 4-5stars hotel or lower stars hotel.

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    9. Eh Harlow... How does this Mak Glam know that the services at Hilton, Ritz Carlton or Le Meridien are better? Tu la Mak Glam always overnight there after her runs or bling bling on red carpets.
      Honestly I have never slept at those 5 high end abodes la. The best ever was Sheraton Sukhumvit in Bangkok and Marriott Marquis in New York City...

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  15. At first I thought the flyovers looked like Mid Valley's hub but it was ridiculous. Then I thought it could be outside Damansara Perdana which has the most overlapping flyovers like a piece of Muruku.

    Muahahahahaha.... All wrong guesses!!

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    1. hehehehe.. it's just a random photo taken from the internet lah.. not any place in Malaysia.. Nichols Railway Station, any idea where it is?? oh, i googled, it's in Taguig City of the Philippines~~

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  16. You know that I just drove back from Singapore yesterday and the roads there are so well maintained and smooth with no pot holes!! I could kiss their roads anytime!! It was a pleasure to drive and speed there!

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    1. that is why i say things are never properly maintained over here.. spent billions building but just let things spoil on their own.. haiz!!

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  17. I really cannot understand the reasons our authorities love to dig and dig same roads almost every year!!!!! As if there are many gold nuggets hidden below!

    The worst of all would be the tolls in PJ area. They think many wealthy people live near PJ and need to change them all. It is so sickening to pay so much tolls monthly. I should ride bicycles soon!
    I had never seen any country that collects so much tolls from the cars!!! Tell me that I am wrong!!!

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    1. you are right!! tolls everywhere and i thought we also paid tax?? and not only digging here and there, but they could suka-suka change the road leading to another direction, and from two-way to one-way and then back to two-way.. and still the traffic is congested, doesn't solve the problem at all.. so, build more new roads and flyovers and collect more money from the tolls..

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    2. The country is like beng run by leeches who fleeches victims of their hard earned monies. I feel lighter and drained with all the nonsense tolls and no ending tax increases. Ini kali lah.

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  18. At first, I thought this picture is somewhere in Malaysia, but look carefully, it doesn't look like it…barely see so many flyover freeway around!!!

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    1. That's never be able to well maintained, look at the flyover at Kepong here, take such a long time to repair, but still consider it may collapse someday!!! =[

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    2. Agree with you, don't think they've plan it properly! Like LDP because of the MRT….jam like crazy all the time, not just the working rush hour, but the normal daytime as well!!! =[

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    3. Build a new one again? So aggressive? Hehehe, I know, you know, we all know lo!!! =]

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    4. hehe, this place is not in Malaysia, i just grabbed a random picture to post it.. after google about this photo, it's a railway station in the Philippines..

      ah yes, the roads and flyovers everywhere and like the construction and repairing takes forever to complete.. and once completed, you will see tolls after tolls to collect money from you.. haiz!!

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  19. Good morning Ah Boy

    am back after hiatus of one week. How are you?

    Interesting topic . Yeah lack of proper planning.

    You know which elevated road scares me the most? It's the bulatan near the Metropolitant college in Sunway/subang jaya. Adui...the road going from USJ towards NPE was really tall. Fly over duno 1 or 2 other fly over. Each time going up there sure i feel like ...errrr....pls pls dont collapse ah...

    You know la . Over here a lot of Ultraman and the space monsters like to play around the elevated road. And you know what happen when they play la...like the dunno Putarajaya or Cyberjaya road...and the MRR 2 last time.

    No wonder la the people in Sri Petaling so scared. That highway is it called MEX? Built less than 10 feet from people house. If nasib tak baik got car accidentthe car might fly into people's house leh. Some more heard residents complaint said the house got cracked.

    Kesian the houseowner there. Heard from friends in real eststae some tried to sell off their house but price cant fetch high coz of the highway so near. Not many takers. But now okay la. Property market blooming

    So many places the road they built one lane going in and going out. Just imagine....one road going out for so many housing estates..if that road got accident happend or flooded...everyone no need to go to work or go home lor

    One more lack of planning is the LRT /MRT/KTM .This one really ah...got people they baru built the LRT/MRT/KTM there. Thus the place become super crowded.

    Try la like Singapore. They plop one LRT at some ulu jungle place and then bandar will sprint up from there. Hence it wont be so crowded. See now ..before building LRT USJ area already jam like mad. Now with the construction, lagi worst.


    One more is they trying to connect all these LTR/KTm but no proper planning. See the Plaza Sentral. What do you call that ah? The one look like caterpillar one.....oh ya Monorail..stop far behind YMCA. Tarak connect into Plaza Sentral. So susah leh have to walk so long. Especially if it is for tourist.

    Another coming up is the sg buloh MRT and the KTM. The distance between the two wanna say near not near...wanna say far not far...how a...it's like Kota Raya to Tung Shin Hospital. Wanna take taxi between the two station sure kena slaughter. But if wanna wait feeder bus, duno till how long la.


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    1. You see, you'll never know this Meow where she goes...But when she's here with her stories... and here she goes again. One long story win the rest lor...

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    2. I remember last time, when LRT station Taman Melati was built, everyone kutuk it and how it will be a white elephant because a station built in the middle of nowhere.

      End up, even the parking space there also not enough after a few years.

      Sometimes, our people also not thinking far enough about matters like this.

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  20. 咪就喺正正呢種種原因,搞到周圍都好似廢墟,得個亂字。

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  21. KL, when we go KL, we hope that the hotel we stayed provides us hotel shuttle to the malls. Then, we can save the trouble of driving our own car. JJ doesn't like to drive in KL. He scared of the jam, and the massive traffic.
    Thankfully SP taking me to Mid Valley the previous trip to meet the bloggers. Otherwise, I would end up taking Taxi.

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