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2015.11.23 | 今時往日

[Volume 10 Issue 11, #2076]
The Present (pun intended) That Invoked My Thoughts
Presents
呢啲禮物同生日及聖誕無關, 而係嗰一日見到侄仔喺度忙緊包禮物而有感而發.. 我問佢送禮物俾邊個, 佢話「我都唔鍾意個老師, 但係班主任又話一定要送份禮物俾呢個老師」..

聽完佢咁講之後, 我即時覺得好唔對路..
  • 點解小朋友將學校老師啲話當係聖旨咁㗎?? 老師一句說話, 佢哋永遠唔會忘記, 永遠唔敢不服從.. 反而係家長苦口婆心一再叮囑, 佢哋永遠唔會記得, 永遠聽唔入耳.. OK, 我承認我以前都係咁樣嘅, 不過點解呢??
  • 究竟係乜情況和大前提之下, 送禮物俾老師已是必定及必然嘅事?? 我記得以前絕對冇咁嘅必要喎.. 我知個用意係要答謝老師教育之恩, 不過要答謝都可以有好多其他方法啫,例如親口講多謝, 親手整張答謝卡, 唱番首歌或排個表演節目等.. 我一路以嚟都以為老師係無私奉獻, 不計回報地教導及教育莘莘學子, 學生學有所成就係佢哋最佳回報.. 點解搞到依家咁物質化??
  • 我經常都會見到好多家長東奔西撲, 為嘅只係幫自已嘅子女凖備禮物送俾學校老師.. 從何時開始學生答謝老師又要關到家長事㗎?? 校方規定學生一定要送禮物俾老師, 學生在沒有經濟能力原因之下, 唯有將個波推俾家長.. 我個人覺得咁樣係助長小朋友過份依賴嘅性格, 同埋讓佢哋潛意識下認為好多嘢係隨手可得而且理所當然嘅.. 唔駛付出就望有回報?? 對我而言, 係教育小朋友絕不能容的事..
this has nothing to do with birthdays or christmas but i have something to say when i saw my nephew busy wrapping a present the other day.. i asked who was the present for and he replied "i actually do not like this teacher, but my class teacher told me that i must give a present to this teacher"..

i heard what he said and immediately thought that was rather peculiar..
  • why are kids so submissive to the orders of teachers in school?? one word from the teachers, they will never forget to follow and will never dare to disobey.. whereas kind advices from parents even though patiently repeated numerous times, they will never remember and will never willing to listen.. okay, i admit i was like that too, but why??
  • on what occasion and why has it become a compulsory thing to get teachers a present?? i don't remember i had to do this last time.. i know the intent is to thank the teachers and show appreciation, but there can be many ways of doing it, like saying thank you, drawing a card with simple notes, singing a song or putting up a performance.. i always thought teachers are selfless and ask for no return but hope students learned the best from them, the best return would be outstanding students themselves, why has it made so materialistic now??
  • i have always come across parents busy helping their kids prepare presents for teachers, since when students thanking teachers must involve their parents?? the school ask students to get presents for teachers, and the kids throw the balls to the parents because they are probably financially incapable.. i personally think this causes kids even more dependent on parents and makes them take for granted that everything can be available.. getting what you want without putting in effort?? a big no no in bringing up children, if you ask me..
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  1. Good Afternoon Bloggers! Happy Monday and what a luck that I am here to read this new post. Am I the first commenter today?

    Time has changed so much today. The whole schooling system and students have changed beyond beliefs. When schools are now being controlled by parents' demands, there are still schools which are strict to the students like your nephew's case. I just guess that it could be a Chinese school where they still have this system where disciplinary actions are observed.

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    1. This topic is very touchy for some parents as I often hear my married friends complain about bringing up their kids and blah blah blah.
      While they have their infinite joys and happiness for being parents, they still got stressed by the no ending financial issues. Oh well, to have a marriage partner or even a small family would require more expenses and time investment otherwise better remain as happier singles.

      My wife was in the teaching profession for many years and we never failed to hear so many long list of woes from parents and school teachers. The list is so scarily long that it made me wonder what has happened to this world and the educational systems?

      I would change your theory that many schools are submissive towards the unrealistic demands of the parents sometimes. The last university which my wife lectured was the final straw because the students were given forms every 3 months to evaluate all their lecturers!!!!! Heard that??.... Every nonsense and rubbish scores which the students could have revenged on the lecturers would result the HR Dept and Principal to haul up one by one of the lecturers to answer them. That is so unfair as these students who played truants or lagged in their studies would write such bad remarks in the evaluation sheets to protect themselves such as getting bad grades due to the incompetence of the lecturers' parts. The whole problem should be blamed on the school's management for being greedy to the parents' hefty fees paid and succumb to be their slaves. So many liars were born overnight.

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    2. Good afternoon Anay. You chup the First commenter ya. Nowadays SK post up different timing , many susah catch the timing. That day am lucky ngum ngum bump into new post LOL

      I think only Xiao Ying will be able to catch Sk's timing la.



      hmm tak kan la never bring present will kena punishment. J punya also chinese school wor. But tarak pun say anything about compulsory give present to teachers. It's all suka hati. Teachers Day pun the teacher never ask for present. Only asked if parents want to join in the celebration or not. Or maybe ask parent would like to contribute some food. Tarak ask for present.

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    3. hahaha memang touchy to parents la since each parents have their own way of bringing up their kids. Some believe in rotan some say advise the kids and they will be good. But all these also depend on the kid temprement. Not all kids the same . and not all kids react the same .

      but nowadays can't all applies to old rules. Last time when teacher say 1, students will not dare to say 2. Now, students will question back what, who, where, why 1?

      But still there are plenty of student will despite not happy with the instruction and yet will still listen to the teacher like SK nephew of giving present to the teacher. Hmm...I wonder whether can give a bunch of rotten eggs or not leh?

      I wonder why SK's nephew hated that teacher? Is it discipline teacher? Coz my time...almost everyone hated discipline teacher. And they gets the less present during teacher's day LOL



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    4. What lah this Meow always talk this and that but shot up the charts and got FC too! Of course, SK needs to change all his timing for new posts so that could create excitement and fun for us readers. Many blogs are mundane and comments are like water drops trickling. We bloggers need to learn the tricks of SK to jampi so many bloggers like me and others to worship this place to get our daily fix. I need to detox myself soon. Muahahaha

      Yeah la, schools cannot actually force the kids to give presents to their teachers. Maybe the teacher kinda pressure the nephew with a scary face which was misinterpreted as a compulsory order. Most teachers are not popular in schools and only a few would be idolized by the school children. Those male teachers who are handsome, friendly or comical would be popular. As for female teachers, those who are rich, comical or motherly would be popular. This is my own survey and opinion from years of observations.

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  2. I wonder the same thing also, last time I didn't give any present to my teachers also, doesn't matter is the teacher I like or I don't like.

    But still I think depends on the teacher and parents also ba, like my older sister, she never do that and I guess she would never do that also, hahaha...because she always said she has no time for this and that...

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    1. My time too it doesn't matter if we don't give any present to the teachers. So far this is the first time i heard that teacher requested for present. Touch wood hopefully will never encounter that la. Otherwise next will be demanding minimum price for the present lo

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  3. If I have a nephew like yours who didn't like his teacher and yet, had to wrap the gifts..... I would look inside the store room and pick out any junk recycled gifts to wrap with newspapers! That would make the perfect gift for that teacher! Bwahahaha

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    1. SK's has so many soft toys and McD toys, he should donate some to his nephew and let his nephew wrap as gifts to give to the teachers. Muahaha! I hope the teachers will appreciate those toys like SK.

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    2. Yearrrrr, those he takes so difficult to collect them all one leh, and I not mistaken there's s few he purposely take cab to buy, hmmm

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    3. hey! then the teacher might even nominate your nephew as the most enviromentally friendly and creative student leh. After all no waste or gift wrapping papper. Newspaper after the cikgu unwrap can sell to the old newspaper man. Very creative leh

      Yannie...ask SK to donate his McD toys to his nephew to give to the teacher which the nephew hated ah...like that better use Anay's suggestion cincai korek from storeroom and give lor...cincai pink polkadot underwear or something lo. Muhahahahahaha

      SK will rather jump from KLCC leh than to donate them LOL

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    4. What a joke! SK's toys are all his precious items which are like priceless today. How would he ever part with them to pass it to the nephew to wrap them for his horrid teachers? SK would go to the pasar malam to buy a toy snake for his nephew's teacher. Muahahaha

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  4. Agree with both hands and legs up, I ever heard from a parent that her kid so scare of the teacher, whatever the teacher says, he must follow, maybe because he scare of punishment

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  5. Nowadays, parents also involve heavily at school.

    You know why there is a term of helicopter parenting right? hehehe

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    1. I think I deserve to demand a medal from SK for being a nosy blogger who always return back to his old blog posts to read and check any updates! Unlike this Sotong Kurage who only speed reads at midnight with half closed eyes and often left irrelevant comments like the "Pad Thai" photos he claimed to see!!!

      Okay, jokes aside, I must say thanks to Lina's ever bombastic words used that I always took the trouble to check up and learn. I looked up this helicopter parenting to get a clearer meaning and had a good laugh!!! See what I have read below....

      A helicopter parent (also called a cosseting parent or simply a cosseter) is a parent who pays extremely close attention to a child's or children's experiences and problems, particularly at educational institutions. Helicopter parents are so named because, like helicopters, they hover overhead, they do not stay long, and then they leave, only to return.

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  6. Students scared of teachers perhaps because of peer pressure also, somewhat?

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    1. Spot on! I never liked my whole schooling life partially due to the fear instilled into me by those ruthless and retarded teachers. They built fear, pressure and unhappiness into me for a long time.

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  7. I like my son's primary school. The previous headmaster disallow students from giving presents to teachers even on teachers' day.

    He understood that quite a number of students there came from a less than priviledged background.

    Last time his primary school didn't even have graduation day. Now I see a number of schools doing graduation day complete with robe and mortar board for Std 6!!!

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    1. lina, your son's primary school HM was very good. He set rule like this, meaning those kiasu parents didn't get a chance to bribe teachers at all. Kudos to him for being so firm and stern.

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    2. Kudos! Lina's son's primary school headmaster is a caring and understanding man indeed. This is really few in the world with such noble and good hearted leaders. My school's principals were like terrorists as they had to run a huge a Christian Brothers school. They used some old school method to manage and I never liked it. I have said over a hundred times and no more. Wuhuhu!

      Usually the very rich parents would have the edge to become big bullies! Money still rules in this world.

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  8. First thing I think of when I read about your nephew's comments "Oohh, sounds like me, and most people", hehe.. To be really honest, I'm like that too.. I don't like that person, but no choice, still have to endure "to survive" and tahan ger wor.. Not only talking about presents, but also in office leh..

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    1. There are a few people whom I really hate in my office.. Ok, maybe cannot use the word hate.. But really, I hate them.. They "vandalize" people's cars in the carpark.. They stick stickers and post-it notes on people's cars, play with people's car alarm and mess with their wipers and side mirrors.. And come on, they are almost 30.. And they still do like that, pissed me off.. But in the office, still have to talk nicely to them, endure them, else, they will make your life very difficult ger wor.. They are very "noisy" and kinda "sang farn shue" in office.. Most people don't mess with them, or even start a conversation with them, but sometimes can't avoid, still gotta say hi & bye.. And sometimes, still need to "lower down our profile" and chat with them, to "survive"..

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    2. Ok, enuff about these morons in the office.. Back to presents.. Ok, I'm neutral towards my sitaupoh, but I still make effort to give Christmas presents and CNY cookies to her.. Wana ambik hati is like that, am sure everyone or most people think the same kua..

      Many colleagues in our office endure and "jau" the lady boss, coz if anything happens (daily work activities like delivery, order processing etc), she open mouth only, she say 1 word only, problem settle.. So you see, they need to always ambik her hati, for "survival" also..

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    3. Same thing for giving presents to teachers.. Parents give presents and goody bags to teachers so that they treat our kids well in the tadika/daycare.. Ok, maybe I'm wrong.. Maybe the first reason should be: Parents give presents to teachers as year-end appreciation gifts to show appreciation to them.. Of course I appreciate them, and give them a token of something, BUT also with the hope (deep inside our heart), to ambil hati the teachers, and they will also treat our kids better kua.. Hor?

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    4. And also peer pressure perhaps? Everyone is giving the teacher something, so your nephew also wana give teacher presents lor.. It happens to me all the time.. I see people giving other people presents, we also kiasu wana share the present and include our name inside the card.. Biasa hor?

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    5. Got like that one meh? So I wonder then if the student did wrong, don't know the teacher will really punish them or not? Hmm....

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    6. Hey, hey, whose car is that? If then did it to my car please must tell me, why you colleagues are like that, got nothing to do?!

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    7. why? If i don't like the person, i won;t bother to give anything at all. waste my energy.

      If like SK's nephew..got "ordered" from cikgu then no choice la. Chincai buy one packet of biscuit for the cikgu kau tim.

      Your office mates sounds horrible.

      Don't think it will effect much whether parents give or don't give present to the teacher coz if the student do something wrong, the cikgu will still punish. At least..i hope so la in my case. I directly told the tcikgu. Mau rotan, kai rotan. No need give face,

      but if scare that the present will be misconstrued as bribe for better treatment, then it is best just to give the present to the teacher at year end. After all...all working people have bonuses at year end...teachers also kira as working for us....small gift to them at year end kira as bonus and thank you lo. So that the Cikgu will not think that we as parents know only to complain when there are bad work done...but we also know how to say thanks when they have done good work for the year.

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    8. Give rotan is acceptable, I scared she/he got so pissed off then cincai mark the person, then die lo...

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    9. I always liked to read the way Princess Ribbon's ideas and comments. They were often thought provoking and practical to deserve a gold medal. Kurage should learn something from here instead of half past 6 comments just to earn cookies points! Muahahaha

      When we were at school, we had enemies within the students as well the teachers and headmasters or disciplinary teachers with fat rotans. Now we are adults and this Princess highlighted such a true fact that we still have hatred or dislikes for many working colleagues and superiors in the working industry. This hate and like matter is no ending in this world and our lives. We just have to control the situation since we are also players in the world of stage actors and actresses. I often have headaches dealing with all the internal staff problems inside my factory. This morning, the Malay guy seated beside me just had a shouting match with my boss' partner from Singapore. They were hurling accusations at each other just like Karma Vs Karma! haiks!

      I had to bring out my verbal rotan to stop them both. The trivial dispute was over a THUMB DRIVE!!!!

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  9. Presents should come from a student's heart with real intention. Shouldn't be influenced by peers or even teachers.

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    1. When I was a teacher, I always encouraged my little students to prepare cards for teachers on teacher's day. In fact, it was a class activity. So they had all the time to prepare the cards for their favorite teachers.

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    2. Those days, we didn't expect our students to give us expensive gifts. A lovely card with a wish was good enough for us.

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    3. But for my kids' case, I always bought simple gifts for their teachers like a pen or so. Just to appreciate their teachers' effort in educating them.

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    4. That is the way it should be. Not teacher demanding for present.

      i still suspect there might be some misunderstanding in SK's nephew case. Hard to believe teacher demanding a present

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  10. So far, i don't remember buying gifts for teachers when i was still schooling...

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  11. I don't like it when people ask me to buy things like your nephew case, as i find that it should be out from the heart...

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  12. Yes I think nowadays there's much pressure to give presents to teachers! I don't remember giving presents to my teachers last time, until I was in secondary school and I only gave to a couple of teachers that I really liked!

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  13. I wonder why this teacher ask the students to buy presents for another teacher. Is it with the other teacher's consent or not? Maybe the other teacher also do not want the presents but this teacher keipoh only, asking students to buy presents for the other teacher.

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  14. When I was young my mother is the one asking me to buy presents for the teacher. I don't think another teacher asked us to buy presents for other teachers. Come to think of it, I can't remember what are the presents I gave to the teachers. A few years it was teapot set my mother bought and asked me to give to my class teacher. Other than that I don't remember so I guess maybe I did not give any presents, hahahaha! Children are scared of teachers because teachers will cane them whereas parents sayang them. For parents who caned their own children, the children will also be scared of the parents.

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    1. I was also asking my daughters to give presents to teachers. My daughters would give gifts to selective teachers only. They would not give to all teachers, otherwise I would broke.

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  15. Haih, if your nephew is an adult, I will tell him: 唔好傻啦 你比你班主任老点咗啦!

    Seriously, if that particular teacher is an asshole, a small gift would not turn him/her into an angel. Waste of money and effort. And what if other teachers saw it? Soon every teacher would expect a present, those who did not get might feel offended. Instead of disliking just one teacher, now he's got many teachers disliking him pula...

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  16. Next time when you become a parent, you can teach your children to ask the teacher if the teacher asks them to buy presents for other teachers why must they do so. Isn't it voluntary. Then you can ask your children to earn money by doing chores for you or anyone else willing to hire them so that they can use the money to buy presents for the teachers that they want to give presents to. You can also tell your children not a must to give presents to teachers, only give when you want to give and have your own money to buy presents. Ah, the power of being parents! Can teach own children own ideas and ideals.

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  17. I don't remember ever giving present to any of my teachers. Maybe things are different now compared to last time.

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    1. I can't blame your nephew for obeying. I mean, in school we are supposed to obey teacher. Teachers are in a position of authority and if we don't we are being disobedient and may face disciplinary action. At home pulak, maybe the parents are a bit soft with the kids. No discipline and therefore they are less likely to listen.

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    2. I sokong 100% that teachers should not expect to be given presents! It would be on the initiative of the kids to show their appreciation and it should not be forced. I think this giving of gifts to teachers is not a good practice. It may lead to favoritism, those kids that give gifts/more expensive gifts will get preferential treatment and vice versa. Not healthy at all.

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    3. On your third point, if the gift giving is on the child's own initiative, I would think that he or she would save up some money (depending on how much pocket money they get) to buy a little something for their teacher. But I guess, it would not be financially viable for a kid to be able to afford gifts for all the teachers and they have to ask their parents to chip in.

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    4. I also agree with you that kids should not be made to depend totally on parents and end up taking things for granted. Parents have to teach them the value of money and how to budget. Do you know that there are many young working adults that are still financially dependent on their parents? Their car installment is paid by daddy. Some still stay at home and when it comes to shopping, they conveniently drop their things into the trolley and make don't know when it is time to pay. So mummy or daddy has to pay. I blame this on the parents for not educating their children on financial independence. Somehow even in adulthood, the parents continue to sponsor the working kids without saying anything.

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  18. I think it is also peer pressure. Teachers ask students to bring presents on teachers' day. Students also scared to be the only one who do not have presents to give teachers so don't like that teacher, also will give. Just like farewell for colleagues. You don't like a colleague who is leaving but everyone in the office is pooling money to buy that colleague a farewell gift. When the collection box/person asks you for your contribution, I am sure you will also give the money. Tak kan you say eh, I don't like him/her lah so I don't want to contribute to the farewell gift. Almost all people will keep quiet and just contribute.

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    1. Once upon a time during my schooling days, we never gave presents to our teachers at all. Maybe the Penang folks are always kiam siap. Muahahaha

      I have heard my wife's stories about the wealthy kids at her school who could always treat teachers to dine at 5 Star hotels to commemorate birthdays or teacher's day. They try to compete with the other classes just for shiok. Poor parents whose pockets were all burnt miserly.

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  19. Well...it is about what you "are" expected to do when you are in certain situations or circumstances. Sure you can choose to do otherwise. But when you pick up a stick, you lift the other end as well. So...

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  20. I prepared gifts on teacher's day only. I would ask my girls how many teachers that they would like to give them presents. My daughters would decide to give to their favorite teachers only. In fact, I prepared the teacher's day in ad advance. I would buy things that I saw in my trips, then I would keep until teacher's day as present for teachers. This is just to show the appreciation of teacher's hard work.

    But then, I won't spend a lot on the presents. Just a small token will do. Other than the school teachers, my daughters have lots of teachers outside the school too. Such as tuition teachers, art teacher, ping pong coach, swimming coach, and piano teacher. So, it is all depended the individual financial status, no point stressing up ourselves on buying expensive gifts to bribe the teachers.

    I remember that i baked small cupcakes one time to give to teachers on teacher's day.

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    1. As for your nephew, I guess must be that teacher is going to retire, therefore his form teacher asked him to buy gift for that teacher. It happened to my girls too. The teacher never even taught them before, but they were asked to chip in money to buy gifts for the teacher on the last teaching day. Some more the form teacher would set the minimum money to chip in, the form teacher said that every one cannot pay less than RM5.

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    2. Wow! They even set the price that every one cannot pay less than RM5 is quite ridiculous. Time has changed yeah.

      My mum always baked fresh cakes and delivered to my school right away and everyone from the school mates to the teachers enjoyed her warm bakings for several years. Today, nobody remembers it except me. Humans have short memories and choose to remember what they like to. I think if we gave a present with round stones wrapped inside as gifts for the teachers, they will remember us for whole life!! Muahahaha

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    3. If I were a teacher, I would like to receive home made food such as cakes, cookies and breads from parents. Sometimes, teachers received too many pens, cups, bookmarks, cards and flowers, I don't think teachers would appreciate those gifts anymore.

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  21. i believe the peer pressure and kiasu-ness plays a big part in having such practice these days. I was kinda surprised too when knowing about this (few years ago). Well, nowadays kids or perhaps their parents dun want their kids to lose out to their peers, so they also helped out by forking out $ to buy expensive gift and even putting effort in decorating the gift so that it looks impressive. Such 'culture' is even more obvious in private schools where parents spends thousands to buy teacher days' gifts.

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  22. back then I when I was still skooling in primary skool, they were already some parents who started such 'trend'....it wasn't that 'huge' those days, but it was so outstanding that became the talk of town...ok, I mean we (as kids) do talk about who and who brought the biggest presents to teacher and I also told my mum about those extraordinary gifts that teacher's got. As I wasn't the only one who report such to my mum, I guess other kids do as well...Hence it became the talk of town...haha! But it wasn't a serious competition back then. Nowadays, the gifts are so competitive and everyone (kids/parents) dun want to lose out.

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  23. there's nothing wrong giving your teacher a present but why are they making it mandatory? Children should be taught that giving gift should be done because they want to not because they are asked to..

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  24. when i was in elementary.. i remember my teacher joining us in our exchange gifts which is more fair than requiring kids to buy one for another teacher... i really don't see valid reason for it.. is that teacher dying or leaving the school?

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  25. The best gift to me as a teacher, would be the student's good grades and good performance, I will be very proud to say I am their teacher, of course I don't take all credit for their good grades and good performance, it is their efforts also, but of course I don't mind receiving cards with sincere words from their hearts

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  26. Good morning SK

    Wah...so early thinking of pressie ah...ahem ahem...for me? *Muka setebal tembok China* .

    Nothing to do with Christmas but New year is coming wor...hehehehe....how ah? Like that lor.

    Aiks forced to give pressent to a teacher that your nephew does not like ah?

    May i know which teacher asking your nephew to give present to which teacher? Is it his Class/form teacher ask him to give to his class/form teacher or is it to give to another teacher? What purpose is the gift for? As a thank you at year end or as a goodbye (retirement) present.


    I hope that it is for another teacher la and not to the same teacher himself or herself.

    There is one cerita that i heard from the radio the other day. The DJ was talking about school bullying. and asked callers to call in and ask how to diffuse the bullying situations.

    One caller call in and she said when she was in primary school she was bully by one boy. She told her mother. And the mother did one thing. The mother every time make lunchbox for her to bring to school, the mother will make an extra pack and asked her to give to the bully. She refused and think why should i give to him. I don't like him at all. But however, she still listen to her mom advice.

    Afetr a few times the bullying stopped and the boy asked why is she doing this. They later on become good friends.

    I hope the teacher that is asking your nephew to give present to the teacher that he/she had in mind have the similar thought. Maybe the teacher is trying to teach your nephew something apart from what normally learnt in school?

    When I was in secondary school we all hated one teacher too . But after we graduated, then slowly got to know that teacher. That teacher also can relax in front of us. So we come to think of him as not so bad liao.

    My two cents la.



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  27. point number 1. why kids so submissive to teachers ah? My thought are that the teachers is not in our immediate family member or friends. Teachers are someone with authority. Something like idol la for the kids. a praise from teacher will worth a kati of gold leh.

    Even most of us parents will respect teachers and by right will teach the kids to respect the teachers instead of otherwise. KIds being innocent will listen la. It's from how we are brought up la.

    If a parent that tells the kid that teachers are stupid or are idiots...then the kids will follow that thinking and of course will end up disrespect teachers lo.

    apart from being brain washed by parents, there are peer pressure too leh. Kids are prone to succumb to peer pressure. if One kid trying to win teacher's praise, the friends will follow suit too.

    Same goes to a kid that join gangster. The leader disrespect teacher, the konco will follow suit.

    errr..... apart from praise there is also fear factor. Teachers got R.o.t.a.n. hahahhaa...though now it is more of "Chicken feather instead of miracle arrow" la. Teacher say "I tell your parents..." the kids will takut liao. Shameful mah.

    as for j case.....coz the teacher is pretty lo.... already starting to have 10th month mustard leaves liao this boy. His class teacher is pretty lady . She said one word...better than i say 100 words. adui....

    so you mentioned there that you also like that...which type were you? coz teacher is pretty? coz teacher is fierce? coz kena brainwashed? or coz peer pressure wanna lawan for the teacher's attention?

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    1. What is this bombastic word about this 10th month mustard leaves liao this boy.... I am new to this alien expressions but it is sure funny! Only Meow can talk like a sot plug fella. Muahahaha

      To my own opinion, the best way to bring up a child is to teach him how to fish rather than just feed him with a fish. That was clearly how I was being brought up since young. I was not a pampered child though I had a blessed life. Good parenting is equally important as having a good teacher to teach a child to think and judge wisely so that they make minimal mistakes and embark along their long journey of life widely besides living a meaningful life each day. The best would be the child is street smart while pursuing a good education foundation as well.

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    2. LOL...not bombastic words la. This one direct translation from cantonese. Sap Yuet Kai Choy. I dunno how to write chinese ma. Google translate also lesen lembu one

      wanna teach a kid how to fish also must teach the kid how to swim first la. Otherwise if fall into the sungai habis become fish feeds liao lor.

      Last time people no tv tarak entertainment ...so more babies popping out la. Nowadays..... wanna pop out one kid also very susah lo.... go hospital to give birth... if dun have minimum RM5k to standby...better use condom lo.

      It is hard to define good parenting as different kids will need different way of discipline. SOme if use the old ways of throwing the kid into the water let the kids learn to swim by himself or herself will not work. Terbalik the kid will turn bad and become rebellious. Some kids will need good talking too. Others may see this as pampering the kids but depending on the kid. Some kid takes it well and some not. . While some will need to be strict.

      A pastor once said...now is the new age. As parents and teacher, we must go and understand the kid . Then only we can teach them and help them bloom. He said last time not letting kid watch TV or play computer maybe seen as helping the kid. But nowadays with the technology blooming, parents and teachers must learn more and use these as a teaching tool. Like now there are many educational TV shows. And also computer or tablets have more programme that is educational. Even the MineCraft games helps kids planning skills.

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  28. Point number 2

    since when it is compulsory to give pressent to teacher? Hmmm....Are you sure your nephew did not misinterpret the message or instruction from the teacher? Like maybe the teacher said, please bring a present for Mr XXX retirement on Mon if you can ? Or maybe It's now year end, it would be nice if everyone in the lass can each bring a present to give to your class teacher as a show of appreciation. It depends on what or how the ayat is constructed leh.

    Got teacher or school so muka tebal meh to ask present directly? Maybe the teacher hint hint wink wink kot LOL

    touch wood, so far from J punya kindy to now primary school, tarak teacher ask for present. we give what we feel like giving.

    The school only asked for donation (not the RM2.6Bil donation ah) from the parents for teachers retirement or for teachers who are going to be transferred out. But even that ...it is not compulsory to give. Just give if we feel like giving.

    Hahaha...terbalik J punya school teachers give gifts to the students leh. Last 2 days before end of the year , various teachers give the class treats like biscuits, cakes and ice cream

    During my school time, cikgu also never asked for present. Yes, we made hand craft like tissue carnation .cards and even vase from Orengina(You still remember this orange drink?) bottle for the teacher.




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    1. why so materialistic now ah? okay la....based on the darkest scenerio ...not saying that it is true that all teachers want to be materialistic ...

      here are my guesses:

      1. harga barang apa pun naik lo. Would be nice to get present from student to tampung hidup leh. Would be nice if got students revert back to the old kampung way where the students will show thank you to teachers by bringing a basket of kampung chicken eggs(now kampung chicken eggs cost 80sen a biji dei) ...or maybe seekor ayam kampung( now RM25per kg in pasar malm for kampung chicken)..or some sayur..like kangkung ah...Now no more RM1 kangkung lo...RM1 kangkung not even enough to be one plate full leh. ...or maybe one or two biji durian leh. Durian not cheap not. Even Guava and nangka is pricey nowadays wor.

      2. or saja wanna show off. See! I have 40 presents from all my students. Have to fast fast post up in facebook and instagram to show that how my students love me.

      LOL....the above scenerios is meant as a joke ah.Not for serious meaning.



      Disclaimers : The above guesses is meant to be a joke. Not to be taken seriously. All teachers are Angels.

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    2. Waaah! Waaaaah! Muahahahaha! This Meow pandai borak and suggest the students bring a basket of eggs to thank the teachers. I would never have thought this way. I would bring rotten eggs to pelt at the teachers who abused me.

      So Meow should tanam more kangkung and other healthy green vegetables for J's future use lah. You can also put a scare crow to watch your crops and garden using Kaldip's old worn tattered clothes!! Once you harvest your vegetables, you can put them into the plastic ziploc bags and label your own brand as "Fresh Farm Produce" from Puncak Alam...!! I am sure all teachers welcome your fresh vegetables, potatoes and cincaluk!

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    3. hahaha... it's even unwise for the teacher to brat about the presents he/she got from the students!! That's may invite unwanted troubles like bribery. And, it also don't reflect well on the teacher as it shows the teacher is greedy where he/she should distribute the gifts back to the students.

      I remember during my time, on Teacher's Day or Children Day, its like a potluck where each of us will buy something and contribute to the class. Then, the form teacher will ask the class monitor and a few helpers to distribute the goodies and we will fill them up in our red, translucent plastic bag! My teacher even ordered food for us like fried noodles from the canteen. These are great teachers who only dedicated to the cause of teaching and well-being of the students.

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    4. Too bad cannot have chicken at home now la ...else the shit will be very good fertiliser for the plants leh and the chicken can help get rid of the worms. No need scarecrow ...my side tarak fruit tree so tarak birds come stealing fruit. Hmmm...maybe can tanam nangka...can give to teacher as teacher wor if the teacher happens to ask for present. Come to think of it....must plant those dwarfted durian tree. Better harvest. Can sell and give pricey pressie to materialistic teachers.

      Aiyo...you never heard of giving chicken or chicken eggs to teachers meh? Hmm....confirm la you tarak watch the old P Ramlee movies. Those movie laugh die you la when watch. Those time, teachers are like the father of the whole village. the most respected person in the village except for the ketua kampung

      Huh, Chris? Teacher "brat" about pressie? why teacher need to be bratty? Maybe they selective to expensive pressie? hahaha...guess only those rich parents will be able to give pricey pressie la.

      Laa...most school similar la nowadays....maybe SK's nephew school or that particular teacher is "abnormal" la. J school the teachers also belanja them makan during the last two days of school leh

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  29. Point 3.

    I protest! Protex protex....I helped J with his presents to his teachers so that it won't look like one packet of poop leh. If let him wrap it will look like a packet of poop. Anyway, he did make cards for the teachers by himself la.

    Secondly I think not only the students have to thank the teachers leh. The parents also should thank the teachers for teaching there kids. Giving the teachers pressie is also a form of appreciation from the parents to the teachers

    This is not new. In the old days . Parents will also bring stuffs and give to the class teacher to thank the class teachers. Mostly during primary school days. When the kids are older they can manage by their own , the kids will make stuffs and give to teachers.

    As for throwing the balls to the parents. It depend on how one view it. The kid may asked the parents in a nice way whether he or she can have some money to buy something for the teacher or maybe ask for card board to make card for the teacher. That is not throwing the balls to the parents, in my view la.

    Also this depending on the age of the student. For younger students, they may need help either financially or physically helping to wrap present but older kids, am sure they can manage on their own. But start Form 1 they should be able to manage on their own and even decide whether to give or not to give present to certain teacher

    Hmm....even primary school some students also will decide which teacher to give present to for teachers day leh. though they might still need the financial and wrapping present task to be help by parents la


    Kids will have to learn how to crawl before they know how to run ma. So can't simply throw the task to them and expect them to be able to buy and wrap the present leh.

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    1. It is definitely good to be grateful and thank all the teachers who have invested all their time & energy to teach and share knowledge with the pupils. However, they need to have to give expensive gifts or materials as it is the thoughts that counts. Remember, I have a wifey who was also in the teaching professions. I have seen all sorts of gifts showered to her and I could conclude that the best gifts were appreciative cards and cakes or muffins! All the mugs, plates and pewters are No-No!
      I often saw the best cards were signed by the whole class who snapped a group photo in funny ways to thank the teacher with all their own kind words and notes. After many years have passed, my wifey would have taught hundreds and hundreds of students, so those special cards with photos, names and messages would be best remembered for many more decades to come.

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    2. Aiyoyo...Letchumi teach in richman school lah. Try those sekolah kebangsaan see if there are teachers who will received many expensive gifts or not during Teachers' Day .

      if have two kids in school, parents will pokai lor if have to buy expensive gifts to the teachers during Teachers day. 1 kid..at least have 5 different teachers.. 1 subject 1 teacher... if 2 kids....means at least have to prepare 10 gifts. How la to afford those pewters or cyrstals plates?

      I suspect giving pricey gifts only happens to those international school. The rest of the population will most likely give Maggi mee to the teacher lo. maggi mee if wrapped nicely, surely the teachers will appreciate punya.

      Hey! dun laugh ah...I did that to my Home Science Teachers ahg. Put in two packets of Maggi Assam Laksa, 1 onion and 1 cucumber. Wrapped in a box. muhahaha.....touch wood....tarak kena punish la. Maybe both teacher laughed their heads off when they opened the gifts.

      Cakes and muffins ah? I dont think it is a good idea. Now teachers all health concious la. Diet. LOL. J kindie during teachers day...the parents made muffin and cupcakes give teachers...and teachers re-distribute to the children coz they cannot finish it so fast.

      A card and maybe something practical like pen and white board marker will be more appreciated...at least for the poor teachers in the government school la. Parents have asked teachers what they wanted the most for teachers' day.. and some teachers honestly say dont buy expensive gift. If wanna give...the give pen and whiteboard markers pen as the school do not have enough budget for that. Most of the time teachers will have to sendiri fork out money to buy those things.

      If next year the teacher in SK's nephew schoiol wants present, maybe can consider give them a box of pen instead of some pricey stuffs. .

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  30. WAH I also don't know give present to teachers is compulsory nowadays. Seem like I have to prepare a "gift fund" for my daughter as she is going to standard one next year >_<

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    1. I think their 'compulsory' rulings were absurd and just a harmless threat to make the kids show their appreciations and to learn to be grateful always.
      If the kids didn;t adhere to these rulings, I am sure no one could take action on them.

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  31. During my time, there were no individual presents for the teachers.... Financial those days were limited.... Then during my kids' schooling days, they never requested me to buy anything for their teachers ... If not mistaken they contributed to class collection and celebrated teachers' day with the funds collected.... In my opinion, I dont really encourage gifts to teachers individually, as a group or class, it is fine... Well, you know... parents are very competitive, not so much from the students.... Hahaaaaa....

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    1. Under the old school system, so many things were unheard of besides the corporal punishments and public caning! We never had Teacher's Day until it was created later and aped by many countries. Later on Children's day arrived too and we were pampered to in-house movies at the school hall. They showed us very dated movies like Tarzan & Jane or King Kong!! Muahahaha

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  32. Totally agree with you on the obeying teacher but not the parents part. I am going crazy with Ethan as everything the teacher says is correct and we are always in the wrong. Sometimes I feel like punching the wall!

    Ethan presented a gift to his class teacher too before the school ends. Just a small token of 3 balls of chocolate to say thank you and may she grow fat fat :D

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    1. Muahahaha! What a hilarious wish for the teacher to grow fat fat. I wish someone could wish me to grow thin thin...

      That would be tiring that kids listened to teachers more than parents. It is like a karma vs karma thing to draw the kid's attention as not all teachers are correct at times.

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  33. 回想一吓我好似從來都冇送過任何禮物畀老師。

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  34. Hmm, how old is your nephew? Sounds a bit weird to me, is it consider 'peer pressure'? Cause whatever the friends do, he does also. And whatever the teacher said, they follow.

    Anyway, your first point, kids are submissive to the teachers, to me it's acceptable. Since the kids don't listen to the parents, at least they listen to the teachers, else, imagine if both sides they also not listening, sure die~~

    Second point, yes, it's always nice to give presents to teacher as a token of appreciation, but this must comes from the student or the parents themselves, meaning no pushing or forcing.
    I agree with you, thanking the teacher don't necessarily means giving material stuff, can be just as simple as saying thank you teacher, and giving them a hug, hehe!

    Parents need to help getting presents for the teachers if they are still young, like for those in nursery or kindergarten perhaps. If big enough to make decision one, then they can decide themselves la!

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  35. Yeah, it's normal that kids are submissive to their teachers' commands while rebellious when talking to the parents. Not just you, even I myself also like that and that's the good thing about schools. Imagine the kids are not obeying the teachers , that is even worst, where I am sure there are a few bad apples in school.

    However, I disagrees that students must buy gifts for their teachers. This is the first time I heard this. Even my kid's school, there is no such thing. I never see him buying anything for his teachers but like me during my school days, he will brought back a full bag of goodies during Teacher's Day or Children's Day. Perhaps it only happened in your nephew's school.

    Does it mean that if the present given to the teachers served as a bribe where the teachers be nicer to the students ? Or the bigger is it, the better the treatment ? hahaha... In fact, students shouldn't have buy anything for the teachers as this can translate into a bribery case! Imagine a rich kid with as rich parent get the teacher an ipad!!

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  36. I agreed with you that it's better the kids do something for the teacher, like making making a card from a blank cardboard, simple handicraft, cleaning the classroom or school compound to show appreciation, study hard, help the teacher to carry stuffs, obedient and so on ; rather than asking their parents for money to buy something, especially to a teacher they dislikes.

    It's ok if the parents voluntarily buy something for the teacher though that may translate into some bribery case on an extreme note. I do get some cakes for my daughters kindy teachers to show our appreciation for their hard work. Just affordable stuffs and nothing else. But we never do that to my son's primary school teachers. After all, they are civil servants and not expecting to receive gifts other than their income from the government.

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  37. To those who are not so well to do and struggle to meet ends need, it's definitely unfair to them. Why must they unnecessarily pay for something not helpful to their daily living ?

    Maybe you should consider asking your sibling to bring this up in the parents-teacher meetings. It's really no point buying and wrapping gifts like that, and majority of the schools don't do that.


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  38. Maybe this is just a generalisation but teachers of the past seems more dedicated and caring than than now, where they are more materialistic and just treat it as a job without any value added, like giving extra hours of tuition to the weaker students. However, there are always good and bad teachers in every generation.

    I remember one of niece was saying how her teachers dressed up daily which seems to me is like a fashion show....hahaha... but I guess not all la.

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  39. 有人說過:兒童節是父母出錢,教師節,也還是父母出錢。
    禮物也是父母在準備....真的沒有什麼意義。

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